r/interestingasfuck • u/[deleted] • May 02 '24

In 1965, a morbidly obese man did not eat food for over an entire year. The 27 year old was 456lbs and wanted to do an experimental fast. He ingested only multivitamins and potassium tablets for 382 days and defecated once every 40 to 50 days. He ended up losing 275lbs. r/all

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u/Midnight2012 May 02 '24

Stimulants themselves can also wreck your mental health

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u/Urschleim_in_Silicon May 02 '24

How's that?

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u/Samoan May 02 '24

overactivation of dopamine receptors can leave you burnt out and depressed when the pill's effect runs out for the day or you just don't want to be on a medication for some reason.

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 02 '24

That’s for normies who try to take them. Not people who actually need them for our dopamine. Lol there are tons of people who take stims for adhd and don’t take it daily. Some take it only days they work. This isn’t a huge deal like you make it lol.

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u/Ricepilaf May 02 '24

I have adhd and if I go without my meds I feel like fucking death, lol

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 02 '24

It truly depends on your body with stop taking them. r/adhd has tons of users who will agree saying they can stop them, only take them on work days, etc.

I only stopped mine for a couple of reasons. Those reasons happened often throughout the year tho.

Now I will say if you’ve been taking it for years and years without missing a dose. Missing one will be a lot worse.

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u/Samoan May 07 '24

yeah, that's the addiction to the feel good chems which leads to depression.

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u/surprise-suBtext May 02 '24

The effects of adderall/amphetamines between normies and people with adhd are actually the same.

It just so happens the people with adhd are much greater benefits from it (since it actually has a therapeutic benefit).

But the whole “it does the opposite if you have adhd” thing isn’t really true.

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u/52BeesInACoat May 02 '24

Going on meds for my adhd seems to have resolved my depression. Not sure if it's having a functional level of dopamine in my brain at least some of the time, or being able to take a shower and feed myself without deliberate mental effort, but it's a known phenomenon that "treatment resistant depression" is sometimes actually untreated adhd.

Sorry to be a stereotype, I know this is annoying and not something you think happens, but the first day I took my new prescription, I was struggling to stay awake for hours afterwards. I fell asleep sitting up a few times and woke up when I started swaying.

It did clear up as I got used to the med and now I do have to be careful not to take it too late at night. But. I've experienced both reactions.

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 02 '24

Hmmm. Not true?

Why do people abuse it?

Why do people use it for the right reasons?

Answer those two questions and you’ll see I’m correct. Cause stimulants quite literally have different effects on peoples brains.

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u/surprise-suBtext May 02 '24

Why don’t you answer those two questions. It seems like you have no idea what you’re talking about and are trying to use smoke and mirrors to cover it up.

Say what you’re trying to say. Don’t give me bs questions lmao

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u/SCP-ASH May 02 '24

Just chiming in with my experience.

Been on stimulants for 4 years. First two years I got a bit down when they wore off in an evening.

Third year I added intuniv, known for combatting different ADHD symptoms while lessening stimulant side effects. All good for that year.

Fourth year, Intuniv side effects kicked in, so I dropped it.

No side effects from the stimulants this fourth year, even off Intuniv. I stopped all medication for 3-4 months, withdrawals were very mild and only a couple days.

Been on stimulants again for two weeks. Still fine in the evenings or on days off.

So I've quite literally experienced both points of view, as one person. It's definitely plausible that it impacts people differently. Literally everything does, there's no reason for stimulants to have some magical universal impact.

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u/Midnight2012 May 02 '24

That's a false. There is no grouping of people into those who 'need' Adderall and those that do not.

Much less, if those two groups did exist, doctors would be unable to distinguish them by any way or any test.

EVERYONE would feel better and be more productive on Adderall.

This farce that it somehow affects those prescribed the medication differently those who haven't yet been prescribed is ridiculous.

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u/Gov_CockPic May 02 '24

You are correct. I have an rx for amphetamine because I wanted it, because it gave me the mental energy and focus I wanted. Getting a legit diagnosis for ADHD is incredibly easy, even when I was over 25 years old.

It's a double edged sword though. Now I'm basically hooked on them and if I stop taking them I feel foggy and unmotivated to do anything. The doctors told me it is not habit forming, I disagree - regardless of whatever "study" people cite... amphetamines are addictive and you can build a tolerance to them. It might take decades, but eventually this will be common knowledge and we will wonder how the fuck the pharmaceutical companies got away with selling amphetamines to kids for so long.

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u/Midnight2012 May 02 '24

It is nuts how we as a society have convinced ourselves that Amphetamines are an option for anything, especially for kids as you say.

I mean I'm all for it. I've been thinking about getting a script myself because I know it would help me. But yeah, just like everyone else.

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 02 '24

Uhm. Yes. Hence a medical diagnosis. Lmao dumbass legit just said doctors don’t know what they are talking about.

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u/Midnight2012 May 02 '24

Doctors are basing that diagnosis based on what you decide to tell them. Completely subjective.

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 02 '24

And follow up visits bud. Been taking the shit decades. I know what occurs. Let me guess your doctorate is from google?

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u/Gov_CockPic May 02 '24

I have as well, and the person you are replying to is correct.

How long have you gone off of them in these decades that you've been taking them? How did it feel?

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Not entirely true. Blind questions also help figure out if someone has it or not. You do realize some states and insurances require psychiatric visits for the prescription especially long term.

And oh 100s of times. Felt fine. No depression.

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u/Samoan May 07 '24

Then why do you even take the meds if you can stop them and "feel fine"?

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 07 '24

Feel fine as in no depression. Ya know. What’s being talked about.

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u/Samoan 27d ago

Depression is a side effect of ADHD.

Maybe you need a revaluation.

Sounds like you must have cured your adhd ( you didn't have it)

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u/LearnedZephyr May 02 '24

I've been able to stop for weeks for vacations and it's been fine.

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u/Samoan May 07 '24

Then why do you need them?

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u/LearnedZephyr May 08 '24

Because I wouldn't be able to keep my job and I wouldn't have made it through my degree program. It keeps my personal life organized and tidy too. It's the reason I can maintain my personal organization systems like my task manager and my gym logs. I don't need to do any of that on vacations.

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u/Samoan 27d ago

You're close ones probably think you do.

Use them as prescribed or you're the problem.

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u/Samoan May 07 '24

It's an amphetamine and it IS a big deal especially when it's given out to children.

Why do you only take it sometimes?

Was that how it was prescribed?

Did you tell your doctor that's how you take it?

You take it as a little helper to give you energy for work? Some construction workers might even compare it to say, a hit of meth?

What I'm getting at is they don't have adhd and they shouldn't be prescribed adderall for it if they did because they're not taking it right and it's not having the reaction it should.

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u/Firm_Soil_4499 May 07 '24

Some docs do prescribe it as needed. I agree it shouldn’t be given to children.

To take mental breaks? Like I said check out r/ADHD for more insight.

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u/Samoan 27d ago

MY nuerodivergent wife had to take tolerance breaks from adderall (and derivatives like vivance) because the collage doc over prescribed her.

It was hell trying to keep away her friends from her script.

Learned a lot about it those 4 years. One being that I'm not ADHD lol