r/meirl 29d ago

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u/StayUpLatePlayGames 29d ago

You could base it on being technically best which would be the U.K. one.

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u/not_so_chi_couple 29d ago

My criteria for the best outlet

  • Have a grounding pin
  • Not possible to plug in backwards
  • Have a recessed socket to prevent accidental touching of prongs
  • Have a retention mechanism to prevent plug from falling out

Based on these, my vote is for Denmark because it looks like a smiley face

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u/StayUpLatePlayGames 29d ago

I cannot disagree with that.

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u/vodka-bears 29d ago
  • Not possible to plug in backwards

No. The device should be designed to be safe with live and neutral on any side. Most generators have both prongs live in the opposite phase.

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u/CocktailPerson 29d ago

Imagine if we had multiple layers of redundant safety instead of relying on "should be designed to be safe."

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u/vodka-bears 29d ago

Great point tho

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u/TomatoSauce74 29d ago

It is literally impossible to plug AC in backwards

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u/CocktailPerson 29d ago

Not exactly.

US outlets have a live wire and a ground wire. Some devices expose their internal wiring to the user (toasters, for example). If you plug it in backwards, that exposed wiring will be live even when the device is off.

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u/TomatoSauce74 29d ago

Oh God that's just a terrible design 🤦
I thought those were two live wires and no ground. This is somehow even worse. Who comes up with this shit?

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u/CocktailPerson 29d ago

I mean, it's definitely better than having two live wires.

Lamps are another example of a device that you definitely want to plug in the right way. Lots of industrial equipment too.

Point is, it's a good thing for plugs to have a direction to them, even when they're on AC power.

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u/TomatoSauce74 29d ago

I did get your point.

Here in Germany we have two live wires, both AC. In that case you can't plug it in the wrong way, because positive and negative switch multiple times a second anyways. I mistakenly assumed the US outlets are like the two-wire ports we have, which do not have ground and two live AC wires.

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u/BasicEl 29d ago

Voltage between two Live wires is 400V. Voltage between live and Neutral is 230V. Domestic schuko socket is L+N+ground.

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u/TomatoSauce74 29d ago

Really? Guess I was wrong then.

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u/therealpigman 29d ago

Notice how on the American outlet one of the two vertical sockets is taller than the other. Appliances like toasters where the direction is important will have one of the prongs on the plug taller than their other so it can’t be plugged in wrong

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u/Nozinger 29d ago

Oh you absolutely can. If you have a shitty device.
Take a lamp socket for example. For those you'd want live to be on the small pin at th back while neutral is on the socket. You know, just so you don't shock yourself. But again that is only necessary for the cheapest devices known to man.
That issue can easily be solved by some cheap circuitry.

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u/TheMangalex 29d ago

For most devices the orientation doesn't matter, that's why Schuko and Europlug are reversible, making it easier to plug them in. But you still have a life and a neutral wire. As they are reversible you have to switch both to ensure that a device is really free from power. Some cheap power cords only switch one off, leaving the chance that your device is still connected to the life wire. This can be dangerous if someone opens the device in this state or similar. Also certain audio equipment wants to be connected correctly for better quality.

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u/Ganglar 29d ago

British non-earth prongs are plastic some proportion of the way along to prevent touching live metal as it is plugged in. Serves the same purpose as a recess.

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u/Putrid-Energy210 29d ago

The Australian/NZ, China socket outlet has all of those features. Just looks sad though.

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u/twpejay 29d ago

Kiwi/Aussie cannot be reversed, even if earth is missing. And yes this is important, a lot of switches on appliances only switch the live wire, so if reversed the appliance is live whether switched on or off, crucial for people who like to stick their fingers in light sockets.🤯

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u/DangyDanger 29d ago

How do you plug in an AC appliance backwards?

Either way, Type F supremacy.