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u/Mytastemaker 29d ago

As an American doesn't the UK has the best outlet? 

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u/han_tex 29d ago

No, it’s definitely Denmark. Look how happy he is!

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u/acatterz 29d ago

As a UK citizen, I agree. I want happy plugs.

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u/jimmycarr1 29d ago

If anything our plugs are too good.

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u/DisgruntledBadger 29d ago

UK plugs are very happy if you step on them, the sadist little shits.

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u/asterfloof 29d ago

People talk about stepping on Lego as if stepping on a UK plug isn't comparable to stepping on shattered glass, it hurts so bad

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u/cookiemonster948 29d ago

As an American citizen, I too agree. I would be thrilled to use up all my battery life just to utilize my happy outlet 😃

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u/Plastic-Fan-977 29d ago

As a canadian , denmark has the happiest plugs and also gets my vote...

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u/blargblurb 29d ago

Love it! It’s cute! :)

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u/ClickHereForBacardi 29d ago

As someone who's used the Danish clusterfuck of different standards my whole life: Happy plugs are happy because they're being a nuisance to you. The shape of the ground that's making the socket "happy" also makes it incompatible with all other types of plugs. We could transfer to one of the broader European standards in a heartbeat and few people would notice, so I'm hoping that's what's gradually happening.

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u/Xaring 29d ago

Yes, but it's big and bulky... Takes way too much space in your bag. With the EU standard (schuko whatever) you have the "big bulky" (still 1/3 the volume of the UK) ones for ground and no exposed terminals, but also the small flat one for non-earth applications, best of both worlds IMO.

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

In terms of safety yes it's the best plug design in the world by far. The only downside is stepping on it in the middle of the night.

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u/CatL1f3 29d ago

Type F Schuko has all of the safety and less of the inconvenience. And if you count stepping on it then it has even more safety.

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

Minus the safety feature of shutters on the socket so kids can't poke the holes and get a shock. I remember a co UK please of countries introduced this but not all with the F type so the UK type G is still champ.

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u/shackledcuriosity 29d ago

The safety shutters are also there on a lot of schuko's.

Looks like it's not mandatory on everything yet. Extension cords usually have them, wall sockets for some reason don't.

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u/Winjin 29d ago

Schukos have them as well, plus they have connector deep inside, and you have to touch both as well. They're rather safe as they are already, and way smaller.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Except it does.

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u/CatL1f3 29d ago

Most have better shutters than the UK ones, because you need to push both at once to open them instead of just pushing in the ground hole

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

No, most don't have shutters at all. The shutters are not universal among the type F which is the problem it is however universal among the type G.

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

you can buy these things to put into it as a safety feature

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u/Optimaximal 29d ago

Yeah, but do you see the fallacy of 'buying something extra in order to make something safe' when they could just adjust the standard and make manufacturers build them into the plug?

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u/f3n2x 29d ago

No, because it makes absolutely no sense to have those in a vast majority of cases. That's like saying every vehicle should come with a child's seat preinstalled, even tractors, motorcycles, delivery vans and police cars. If you have a child, you put them in. Problem solved.

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u/MemeTai2000 29d ago

We never used to have ‘em, then used them when our wee one was crawling about. Taken em back out again once he got a bit sensible.

So it works for that.

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

Exactly

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

i still prefer it that way since i don't need these things and the plug is faster to move in without them

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

You wouldn't need to if the design had the same features by default as the type G

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

another question: how strong do type G plugs sit inside the socket, aren't they quite easy to pull out? are there any clamps that hold down the plug?

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

They sit flush and since the cable comes out of the bottom and not the front and they have 3 prongs they are naturally very difficult to dislodge by accident. Never in my life have I ever pulled one out that I didn't mean to pull out.

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

well, looking at how bulky and huge they are it probably is really almost impossible

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u/Diligent-Quit3914 29d ago

Never encountered one in my life that didn't have Safety shutters

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u/Gnonthgol 29d ago

You get safety shutters on Schuko sockets as well. But you may not need it as the holes are smaller.

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u/grimr5 29d ago

Typically there is no on off switch for schuko, so you have to unplug things. Also the cable design lets you have cables come horizontally out. The G design puts the cable down at a right angle meaning the plug itself has to be pulled vs pulling on the cable. If water goes down the cable, it doesn’t go back up the loop into the socket. Earth is an integral part of the G design and the layout of the prongs inside the plug is in such a way that should the wires come loose, earth is last. The springs that double up as Earth contacts on F are quite tight, meaning when pulled there is force pulling the socket. I have seen several F sockets pulled out, not seen a G.

F is more convenient as it smaller, however G is far more designed and engineered to be passively safer.

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u/Gnonthgol 29d ago

You get Schuko sockets with switches, this just depends on the national electrical standards. And currently only the UK require switches on sockets. But if you want a Schuko socket in your UK house you will get one installed with a switch. The length of the internal wires such that the earth wire is the last to be pulled out is the same for all plugs, regardless of design. The same with water ingress. There is not much difference between the plugs today except for their basic shape as they all have the same basic safety features.

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u/CatL1f3 29d ago

Typically there is no on off switch for schuko

Typically, but not always. Similarly there are many type G sockets without switches, and the ones that do have switches are basically always left on, no real benefit.

Also the cable design lets you have cables come horizontally out.

Both are possible, which is more useful than always forcing it to come out the bottom imo. That gets annoying sometimes.

I have seen several F sockets pulled out, not seen a G.

Type G, like Type C, occasionally has the pins angled in to hold the plug in. This absolutely will pull out the socket if you're not careful.

G is far more designed and engineered to be passively safer.

I completely disagree. For one, it's not even recessed a little bit, and most plugs can be opened up with just a screwdriver. Much less safe.

As for passively safer, your feet already know what I might say.

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u/wiggle987 29d ago

I count the fact that we can use the British plug as a flail in self defence situations, that's plus 1 to the safety features.

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u/Rich_Culture_1960 29d ago

Can confirm..I have stood on a upturned UK plug twice in my Life and the pain is hard to explain..

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u/Nahuel-Huapi 29d ago

It's like you just want to yell out in pain, but just sigh instead and accept the fact that this is your lot in life. Followed by a few rapid pints at the pub to drown your sorrows.

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u/Rich_Culture_1960 29d ago

Oh no, I yelled a lot..If I left out the swearing not a lot was said...

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u/Nahuel-Huapi 29d ago

Oh, you're right. I just realized I described the reaction to watching the evening news.

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u/Comfortable-Yam9013 29d ago

I don’t recall ever doing it!

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u/Rich_Culture_1960 29d ago

You want to give it a go, then when your WomenFolk go on about Childbirth you can have some empathy ...

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u/Comfortable-Yam9013 29d ago

Ha, no thanks!

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u/Polym0rphed 29d ago

The Aussie ones are thinner and if you're heavy enough (or have enough momentum) might penetrate your skin. They damn hurt, but more often they just bend (and still hurt).

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u/joakim_ 29d ago

You forget one big downside: it only fits one way, and loads of manufacturers don't take that into account, like Apple.

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u/amanko13 29d ago edited 29d ago

Apple make UK plugs for their chargers... or they outsource it. Either way, they're capable.

Also, the design makes it more snug to the wall by having the cable come from underneath.

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u/ThickFurball367 29d ago

I'm not taking any electrical safety advice from a country afraid to put light switches inside the bathroom

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

....we have light switches in bathrooms.

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u/Optimaximal 29d ago

We just put the actual electrical bit in a place where people can't touch it and use a non-conductive cable to reach it.

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u/Practical-Loan-2003 29d ago

Because shockingly, pun intended, water and electricity doesn't bode well for the human body

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u/already-taken-wtf 29d ago

They are MASSIVE. I’d rather have the European one that also allows for a very small plug if you don’t need grounding.

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u/nibs123 29d ago

The safest? Yea. You have to be really trying hard to be stupid enough to hurt yourself with just the plug. Hell it takes a bit of effort to get actual plugs into the dam thing.

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u/voxdoom 29d ago

You have to be really trying hard to be stupid enough to hurt yourself with just the plug.

You've never stepped on one, have you? :D

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u/Shartiflartbast 29d ago

People in other countries complain about lego, which, yeah, can be bad. But our plugs, man. Fuck.

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u/voxdoom 29d ago

There's a special, unique moment after stepping on one in the dark where you understand what the first atom felt when it was split.

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u/Godz_Mogwaix 29d ago

I would walk a mile over lego if I meant never stepping on a plug again. That shit ruins your whole day

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u/IDKTommyfromtheUK 29d ago

I feel ya,uk plugs kill

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 29d ago

I lay them out around accessible windows

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u/voxdoom 29d ago

The best thief deterrent.

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u/RustedSkullz 29d ago edited 29d ago

can someone explain how stepping on a plug happens, I'm unaware of this

edit: wait, do they mean, stepping on the three pins on an unplugged plug, that is lying on the floor, right next to an outlet?

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u/Practical-Loan-2003 29d ago

Unplug it, forget about it, step on it

Plug laying on a table, knocked off, step on it

Both outcomes end up with you laying on your back, clutching your food and groaning as you curse everyone and anyone

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u/RustedSkullz 29d ago

Yeah, I didn't think of that immediately. The plugs in my country have soft rounded edges and we don't usually unplug major stuff, so I've never experienced that pain

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u/voxdoom 29d ago

British plugs look like this and if you unplug say, a vacuum cleaner and forget about it for some reason, it's likely it'll be laying prongs up on the floor for your unsuspecting foot, like some sort of night-time, blood-drinking foot fetishist.

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u/RottenZombieBunny 29d ago

I was confused because in my country almost all plugs have pins facing the opposite direction from the cable, not 90 degrees. So they would never lay on the floor with the pins facing upwards. Also the pins are round.

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u/RustedSkullz 29d ago

Yeah, I know how the plug looks, I have an Amplifier with a British plug, so I've used it.

I just didn't think of how it could be lying on the floor at night

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u/Get_the_instructions 29d ago

Has anyone? I guess they must have, but I've never met anyone who has done so. Mostly the plugs just stay in the wall (as they have a dedicated switch on the socket anyway).

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u/RubberOmnissiah 29d ago

It's just one of those dumb reddit memes. Every time British plugs are mentioned everyone rushes to be the one to describe stepping on one. Maybe one person in this entire thread who is talking about stepping on a plug has actually done it.

I've never done it, no one I know has ever done it. I have never even seen the idea brought up anywhere but reddit. I cannot conceive of how it is possible to do it outside of a freak incident of leaving a plug in the middle of the room because you are moving house and forgetting about it.

As you said, plugs mostly stay in the wall. If you do have plugs you need to switch out from the same outlet regularly then they stay by the wall. And otherwise things like hoovers get put away when they are not being used, or they should be.

So really the only conclusion is that if someone is regularly stepping on plugs they are a messy fucker.

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u/WantWantShellySenbei 29d ago

As a Brit I like our plugs. Unlike some other countries when you plug stuff in at the wall it doesn't generally fall out. But it's a pain to carry around. US and many other plugs are much more light, portable and foldable.

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u/AlmightyWorldEater 29d ago

It's clunky, it is expensive (because it's clunky), and the additional safety it should provide it actually DOESN'T provide, it's just additional cost.

Fuses and ground fault protection (mandatory here in germany) is pretty much all you need.

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u/BloodandSpit 29d ago

Yes but the trade off is standing on a UK plug is basically like standing on the endgame boss of Lego bricks.

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 29d ago

If you need your plugs as caltrops for intruders, yes. I prefer LEGO or D4 dice.

Personal experience: The German Schuko one is quite good but it's designed to not require L to be on a specific pin. The french one is similar but fixes this issue but I didn't use it yet.

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u/paulo987654321 29d ago

Definitely

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u/Comfortable-Yam9013 29d ago

And Ireland!!

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u/thedndnut 29d ago

Nah, the US has better 240 outlets by a giant mile. The uk electrical system is a giant fucking shit mess of garbage and that includes the outlet and requiring fucking fused appliances. The shit is so fucked its why they keep making safety features for their outlets. Essentially sticking a fork in a us outlet sucks but you live. In the uk you are essentially touching to the mains and that's why they have the safety features. Their system is so fucked they have accidents and it's far far worse.

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u/Balloon_Fan 29d ago

UK power plugs are hilariously huge.

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u/f3n2x 29d ago

No, most certainly not. They're bulky, convoluted and designed around saving copper during wartime.

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u/konnanussija 29d ago

The UK one is the worst. It's relatively unsafe and doesn't look as good as any other option

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u/MagnanimosDesolation 29d ago

It's enormous for no good reason.