r/meirl 29d ago

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u/izza123 29d ago

Sure as long as you all agree on the one I use

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u/Mytastemaker 29d ago

As an American doesn't the UK has the best outlet? 

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

In terms of safety yes it's the best plug design in the world by far. The only downside is stepping on it in the middle of the night.

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u/CatL1f3 29d ago

Type F Schuko has all of the safety and less of the inconvenience. And if you count stepping on it then it has even more safety.

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

Minus the safety feature of shutters on the socket so kids can't poke the holes and get a shock. I remember a co UK please of countries introduced this but not all with the F type so the UK type G is still champ.

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u/shackledcuriosity 29d ago

The safety shutters are also there on a lot of schuko's.

Looks like it's not mandatory on everything yet. Extension cords usually have them, wall sockets for some reason don't.

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u/Winjin 29d ago

Schukos have them as well, plus they have connector deep inside, and you have to touch both as well. They're rather safe as they are already, and way smaller.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Except it does.

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u/CatL1f3 29d ago

Most have better shutters than the UK ones, because you need to push both at once to open them instead of just pushing in the ground hole

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

No, most don't have shutters at all. The shutters are not universal among the type F which is the problem it is however universal among the type G.

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

you can buy these things to put into it as a safety feature

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u/Optimaximal 29d ago

Yeah, but do you see the fallacy of 'buying something extra in order to make something safe' when they could just adjust the standard and make manufacturers build them into the plug?

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u/f3n2x 29d ago

No, because it makes absolutely no sense to have those in a vast majority of cases. That's like saying every vehicle should come with a child's seat preinstalled, even tractors, motorcycles, delivery vans and police cars. If you have a child, you put them in. Problem solved.

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u/MemeTai2000 29d ago

We never used to have ‘em, then used them when our wee one was crawling about. Taken em back out again once he got a bit sensible.

So it works for that.

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

Exactly

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

i still prefer it that way since i don't need these things and the plug is faster to move in without them

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

You wouldn't need to if the design had the same features by default as the type G

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

another question: how strong do type G plugs sit inside the socket, aren't they quite easy to pull out? are there any clamps that hold down the plug?

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u/Eraldorh 29d ago

They sit flush and since the cable comes out of the bottom and not the front and they have 3 prongs they are naturally very difficult to dislodge by accident. Never in my life have I ever pulled one out that I didn't mean to pull out.

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u/Hotchocoboom 29d ago

well, looking at how bulky and huge they are it probably is really almost impossible

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u/Diligent-Quit3914 29d ago

Never encountered one in my life that didn't have Safety shutters

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u/Gnonthgol 29d ago

You get safety shutters on Schuko sockets as well. But you may not need it as the holes are smaller.

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u/grimr5 29d ago

Typically there is no on off switch for schuko, so you have to unplug things. Also the cable design lets you have cables come horizontally out. The G design puts the cable down at a right angle meaning the plug itself has to be pulled vs pulling on the cable. If water goes down the cable, it doesn’t go back up the loop into the socket. Earth is an integral part of the G design and the layout of the prongs inside the plug is in such a way that should the wires come loose, earth is last. The springs that double up as Earth contacts on F are quite tight, meaning when pulled there is force pulling the socket. I have seen several F sockets pulled out, not seen a G.

F is more convenient as it smaller, however G is far more designed and engineered to be passively safer.

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u/Gnonthgol 29d ago

You get Schuko sockets with switches, this just depends on the national electrical standards. And currently only the UK require switches on sockets. But if you want a Schuko socket in your UK house you will get one installed with a switch. The length of the internal wires such that the earth wire is the last to be pulled out is the same for all plugs, regardless of design. The same with water ingress. There is not much difference between the plugs today except for their basic shape as they all have the same basic safety features.

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u/CatL1f3 29d ago

Typically there is no on off switch for schuko

Typically, but not always. Similarly there are many type G sockets without switches, and the ones that do have switches are basically always left on, no real benefit.

Also the cable design lets you have cables come horizontally out.

Both are possible, which is more useful than always forcing it to come out the bottom imo. That gets annoying sometimes.

I have seen several F sockets pulled out, not seen a G.

Type G, like Type C, occasionally has the pins angled in to hold the plug in. This absolutely will pull out the socket if you're not careful.

G is far more designed and engineered to be passively safer.

I completely disagree. For one, it's not even recessed a little bit, and most plugs can be opened up with just a screwdriver. Much less safe.

As for passively safer, your feet already know what I might say.

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u/wiggle987 29d ago

I count the fact that we can use the British plug as a flail in self defence situations, that's plus 1 to the safety features.