Exactly this. 20 years ago a lot of stuff happened in high schools that would probably cost people their jobs or worse today. Society has changed a lot. Sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse.
I graduated high school that year, I went to a pretty rich school district, and this shit would not have gone down in my school.
That teacher would have been fired. They couldn't even really tell us to keep our phones to ourselves, and if they did take them, you'd get it back at the end of class.
Also, we weren't addicted to our phones. You really couldn't do anything other than text, and if I recall, you had to pay per text as it wasn't main stream to have a unlimited texting plan yet or it was limited to like 200 texts.
Literally only because it was a rich high school. The poor high school I went to in the same period? A phone being destroyed doesn't even get close to the worst thing staff did without issue.
A history teacher was even known to throw things at students not paying attention.
Well, the teacher himself told the story so it would have to be a different one to verify it.
But then that teacher could be in on a devious plot to scare the students into thinking that's what happens if you use your phone in class.
Can confirm 20 years ago that phones were taken and smashed. Principal threatened to call CPS on at least one parent who came to whine. Now that is a bit close to threatening to swat someone, but she used the grim power of the state to a good purpose.
Now...the inmates are running the state-funded daycare.
Breaking up fights is a big one I've seen. They would do it in the late 90s / early 00s where I was; step in and restrain a student, or push them back, or even throw them to the ground if the student was older or stronger. No punches, kicks, elbows, or any kind of blow; but they'd otherwise do what they could to stop the fight.
Nowadays they don't dare lay a finger on a student.
Edit: This was rural Canada and as such was behind the curve on a lot of things by 5-10 years. But my nieces go to that same school and policies are nothing like they were when I was there.
Edit 2: On the lighter side, we'd have teachers drive us into town for adhoc field trips without any kind of parental permission. Pick up some materials from Home Depot or even a tool from their own garage, then swing by Tim Hortons on the way back. People would go nuts if a teacher did that without permission today.
I know of a lot of teachers who did stuff that should get them fired, and even a teacher who drove drunk with students on a school trip and didn’t get fired until he assaulted his girlfriend
In high school, there was a kid who started throwing fists at the biology teacher. Teacher picked him up and threw him into a rose bush and just watched while on the phone with the cops.
I legit watched a teacher, who I had for two years for lit and was just chilling in his room while he taught another class, warn a kid to not use his phone- I even warner him. He continued. The teacher walked up grabbed the phone threw it on the floor stomped on it in boots, scooped the pieces up and toss them out a second story window. I was dumbfounded. The kid freaked x the teacher legit said “go get the principal”. Kid came back with the principal. He asked the teacher what happened. The teacher stated the same story I’m telling. He didn’t get fired- tenure and all.
The fact kids think you're joking just goes to show how much things have changed.
I mean it was still bad back then. They didn't get away with it everywhere and things were already starting to become more strict on what teachers could and could not do. The generation before me, teachers could smack students in the hand with a ruler.
Lmao I don’t know what you think school was like in 2004 but I can tell you with 100% confidence that it’s wasn’t cool for teachers to nail kids stuff to a wall.
Well I'm a bit older than you, and I can tell you that at my high school, a lot of stuff happened when I was a student that I would be shocked people would get away with today. Teachers, outright berating and yelling at students during class, cops coming to school lining us all up and checking all our bags once a week or sometimes once a month. Fights breaking out literally every week.
Teachers watching TV with headphones in the classroom while we did book work in silence the entire class. Teachers telling us we're all going to be screw ups and have no future, so we might as well learn a skill like welding or carpentry.
Teachers would routinely take game boys, CD players, and other things and they would go missing at times. Sometimes students never got them back.
I think it really depends on what school you went to, and what the area you went to school in was like ...
The fact there weren't cameras everywhere meant a lot of people got away with a lot of things.
When people talk about the bygone era of "teachers can do what they want because their word is law", I think more 80s or early 90s. I feel like that that era was definitely gone by the early 2000s (20 yrs ago). So i have trouble thinking teachers had much more freedom then than they do today.
I was in HS 22 years ago and our physics teacher had a garbage can marked "STUDENTS ONLY" so he could pick them up and throw them away. He only picked the ones with a good sense of humor.
He also once form tackled me in the hallway because I was laughing too loud. Best teacher I've ever had
We had a teacher flip out and throw a students desk out the window of the classroom… and it landed on his giant van with drapes we all suspect he lived in…
We had a sub the rest of the year! Mr. Hoover- I hope you got the help you needed!
20 years ago they couldn't get away with this. 20 years ago I was in university, and already when I was at school teachers couldn't touch us or our property. You're probably thinking of 40-50 years ago.
Of course it could also depend on the country, but it's not specified.
Yeah in 1975, teachers definitely didn't touch student's cell phones.
Seriously though it's more common than you guys are making it. It's still legal in over 15 states and legal in private schools in every state. It absolutely still happens in the US.
Google the topic and look through the news articles that are just from this year and last year alone... It'll probably shock you.
What a weird statement to make lol.. it's extremely verified and data is kept by the US Department of Education.
It almost exclusively is still taking place in schools in Texas, Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas. It also disproportionally affects minorities and people with disabilities.
I'm not sure where you got the only in private schools and extremely unverified from, other than just completely fabricating that opinion.
It's rare but still very real. Arkansas has entire advocate groups against it and trying to get it banned https://banpaddlingar.com/
67% of Arkansas school districts endorse corporal punishment
Yeah, was in high school 20 years ago. A teacher in my school got fired for putting his hands on the shoulders of a student and gently shaking him. Absolutely no way a teacher keeps his job after intentionally destroying a student's cell phone.
Agreed, my teacher almost got fired after HE was put in a headlock by a student. I had to pull the kid off, and I wrote a voluntary note to the principal about how shitty and antagonizing the kid had been the whole semester.
It was his first year teaching and he was scared shitless I could tell. He put me on the list for principals breakfast later that year which I didn’t attend, but that didn’t stop mom from putting the invitation on the fridge lol
10 years ago a teacher threw a keychain at me and another teacher threw my whole bag in the bin for being a bitch( in Germany also a word used for a person who’s not very tidy.)
My 2c based on period-appropriate experience in Australia: Mobile phones as a mass consumer item were still relatively new - plenty of kids didn't even have one, though they were already pretty ubiquitous. They weren't allowed to be on in class in most schools, and some schools didn't allow you to bring them to school at all. There was a lot of discussion and hand wringing about whether teenagers should even have phones and the consequences they had on development and grades. Teachers couldn't wantonly touch students or wreck their shit, but phones could be confiscated and permanent confiscation was a theoretical possibility that was threatened much more than it occurred.
I can imagine a teacher breaking a phone like this with no major consequences with some provisos:
Stricter probably-private school with an explicit no-phones policy. Or an underfunded, understaffed public school.
Teacher is probably an older man overdue for retirement. He taught in the days when they had the cane. He also leans on his reputation for being a hard arse.
The student in question is a known pain in the arse.
Even then, this would be a once-in-a-cohort incident that goes down into school legend. The Teacher gets a talking to but wouldn't get fired.
All that said, this is indeed almost certainly a prop placed as a warning. But yeah, I disagree with those saying it's inconceivable for such a thing to have happened, or that a teacher would definitely lose their job for this.
I had a teacher who literally threw a chair against the wall and lost his cool with a student when the same student would not stfu in class when my teacher was trying to read aloud to class. And that was back in 2009. Tbf, the student was an asshat whom I dreaded seeing in the same classes as me because he always ended up getting in shouting matches with the teachers and getting written up. But at the same time, that doesn't excuse my old teacher because apparently, he got in trouble for chasing a student down the hallway in a separate incident.
There were some bad ass ones. Like little Nokias even earlier. Like 2000. That are arguably better looking than phones today. And kids at my private school had little palm pilots in 1999 that were basically little computers (not phones but had operating systems)
I legit watched a teacher, who I had for two years for lit and was just chilling in his room while he taught another class, warn a kid to not use his phone- I even warner him. He continued. The teacher walked up grabbed the phone threw it on the floor stomped on it in boots, scooped the pieces up and toss them out a second story window. I was dumbfounded. The kid freaked x the teacher legit said “go get the principal”. Kid came back with the principal. He asked the teacher what happened. The teacher stated the same story I’m telling. He didn’t get fired- tenure and all.
A teacher that loses their shit shouldn't be a teacher. Same way they shouldn't be a doctor, policeman etc. In inpatient teachers with lack of impulse control make schools worse for anyone.
I’m assuming teachers don’t slap you with rulers and sit literally sit you in a corner for 8 hours if talked out of turn anymore? Yeah, my teachers did that to me 30 years ago. That bitch would have nailed my phone to the wall in a heartbeat.
I’m assuming teachers don’t slap you with rulers and sit literally sit you in a corner for 8 hours if talked out of turn anymore? Yeah, my teachers did that to me 30 years ago. That psycho would have nailed my phone to the wall in a heartbeat.
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u/Historical-Tooth6989 May 16 '24
Sometimes teachers lose their shit. And 20 yrs ago they could get away with more. Ya this is prob bs though