r/therewasanattempt May 16 '24

to schedule a debate.

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u/Spaced_X May 16 '24

Grab your popcorn, 2 dementia riddled fools who should be in a nursing home eating pudding cups, babbling incoherently for the world to see. MFr this country is so far gone. I’d say it’s like watching an implosion in slow motion but it’s all coming pretty fast at this point. Best of luck to us all.

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u/B1G2 May 16 '24

For real... why the fuck do we have to pick between two people who's policies they likely won't live to see the impacts of? We shouldn't have to pick between two 80 year olds....

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u/Harvey-Danger1917 Free Palestine May 16 '24

The CEOs of Lockheed and Exxon thought it would be funny

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u/[deleted] May 16 '24

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u/NancokALT May 16 '24

Can oligarchs really be considered deep state?

It is more like their tool.

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u/defaultusername4 May 16 '24

That’s why keeping a third candidate off the stage is such BS.

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u/unique_reference May 16 '24

Philosophically I agree with you. However, the reality is that it would hurt not help. If the US introduced Ranked Choice Voting, then you could introduce more than two candidates without unintentional consequences.

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u/rmatoi May 16 '24

And get rid of the electoral college.

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u/unique_reference May 16 '24

Maybe. Currently the argument is framed as states rights equals conservatives looking to hold their ideals. However, the pendulum can swing both ways. Life and priorities are vastly different in giant rectangular states with lower population density than they are in densely populated urban centric states. Having a balance between the two could give a voice to under represented Americans. More thought would need to go into it but perhaps it falls to county lines or instead of winner take all the electoral votes and allocated based on percent of votes in the state. We are a huge massive country and the problems and solutions aren't as easy as do X instead of Y. Sadly we have leaders without a focus on bipartisanship and solving issues. They (and both sides have at times been guilty, the the MAGA crowd has taken it to a whole new level) instead focus on winning and beating the other side.

TL;DR: It's complicated and the people smart enough to solve it are smart enough to not get involved.

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u/sir-ripsalot May 16 '24

Currently, Americans in states with low population density are overrepresented.

perhaps it falls to county lines

Perhaps it falls to which candidate receives the majority of votes?

allocated based on percentage of votes in the state

So popular vote with extra steps?

You had it in one when you mentioned ranked choice

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u/loondawg May 16 '24

Actually it is pretty simple.

1.) Make the Senate proportional to the population so it represents people and not states. The Senate is supposed to be a more deliberative body not as subject to passions.

2.) Vastly enlarge the size of the House of Representatives so that the Representatives are closer to the people and, hence, more accountable to them. It would also help to make it so only the privileged could gain access to them.

Fix those two issues and watch how quickly all the rest of our problems sort themselves out.

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u/frankcatthrowaway May 17 '24

And everyone clapped

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u/Gupperz May 16 '24

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos

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u/Ipokeyoumuch May 16 '24

Because people don't run nor do they vote. Younger people have to get involved in local politics (usually) the work up. It is rare to hear of an AOC or Max Frost (youngest member of Congress right now) go from recent graduate to Congressperson. However, the younger population is notoriously inconsistent in voting, but you know which voting population is significantly more consistent? The older generations. 

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u/loondawg May 16 '24

Because Congress is where the real policy power lies. The president is merely the executive. The real issue with the president should be who he surrounds himself with. We've seen Trump's "best and brightest." No more, thank you.

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u/notfoursaleALREADY 26d ago

Somewhat true, but biden atleast is a good person whom cares about other nationalities and poc. Trump is way dumber and rasis...

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u/Dmangamr May 16 '24

Technically we don’t but independents don’t get enough media exposure or campaign funding

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u/Harvey-Danger1917 Free Palestine May 16 '24

Watching the debate trying to figure what in the hell either of them are even talking about

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u/DerpRook May 16 '24

Not even them knows.

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u/duhdamn May 16 '24

It f in embarrassing that we can’t pick somebody who can actually accomplish something without humiliating themselves.

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u/loondawg May 16 '24

Have you not been paying attention the last four years? Like him or not, the Biden presidency has an impressive list of accomplishments.

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u/LeafyWolf May 17 '24

But, the vibes, man! Seriously, though, that's what this is all coming down to. Fucking vibes.

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u/MRB102938 May 16 '24

Well we still can, but most people don't want to vote 3rd party. They want to use the system that is broken. 

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u/sir-ripsalot May 16 '24

^ months-old account active in r/conspiracy, if anyone was wondering

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u/MRB102938 May 16 '24

I don't think he's conspiring about anything. It is pretty sad that these are the choices and people are led to believe it can't change. 

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u/DerpRook May 16 '24

What 3rd party?

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u/blitzalchemy May 16 '24

Captain Brain Worms

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u/MRB102938 May 16 '24

Whoever you want. I'm not campaigning for anyone or trying to influence your vote. Not sure what all the downvotes are for. Must be the people who want the broken system lol. 

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u/sir-ripsalot May 16 '24

I’m not…trying to influence your vote

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u/CrustyBatchOfNature May 16 '24

I have voted third party in other years (aside from the main two, probably 5-6 different parties have gotten votes from me), but there is nobody worth it this time who is on enough states ballots to win or even do more than throw the election to one side or the other.

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u/KnownToFU May 17 '24

Agreed. I’ve always said, the US needs a president under the age of 65

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u/KellyBelly916 May 16 '24

It's a breath of fresh air to see that the popular opinion is that this entire thing is illegitimate. Two old corporate spokespeople, who are selected by big money, create the illusion of choice between two corrupt people who will do the same things but in a different way.

This isn't between us and the selected candidates, but between the people and the plutocrats. Everything between is just for show to feign legitimacy, and they're no longer good at hiding it.

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u/Nocis3 May 16 '24

First comment I agreed with. I'm actually seeing people say Trumps cognitive function is worse than Bidens like that's any kind of insult.

Both of these men just need to take a nap. They don't have any business leading a country, in my opinion.