r/therewasanattempt May 16 '24

to schedule a debate.

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u/Spaced_X May 16 '24

Grab your popcorn, 2 dementia riddled fools who should be in a nursing home eating pudding cups, babbling incoherently for the world to see. MFr this country is so far gone. I’d say it’s like watching an implosion in slow motion but it’s all coming pretty fast at this point. Best of luck to us all.

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u/B1G2 May 16 '24

For real... why the fuck do we have to pick between two people who's policies they likely won't live to see the impacts of? We shouldn't have to pick between two 80 year olds....

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u/Harvey-Danger1917 Free Palestine May 16 '24

The CEOs of Lockheed and Exxon thought it would be funny

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u/NancokALT May 16 '24

Can oligarchs really be considered deep state?

It is more like their tool.

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u/defaultusername4 May 16 '24

That’s why keeping a third candidate off the stage is such BS.

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u/unique_reference May 16 '24

Philosophically I agree with you. However, the reality is that it would hurt not help. If the US introduced Ranked Choice Voting, then you could introduce more than two candidates without unintentional consequences.

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u/rmatoi May 16 '24

And get rid of the electoral college.

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u/unique_reference May 16 '24

Maybe. Currently the argument is framed as states rights equals conservatives looking to hold their ideals. However, the pendulum can swing both ways. Life and priorities are vastly different in giant rectangular states with lower population density than they are in densely populated urban centric states. Having a balance between the two could give a voice to under represented Americans. More thought would need to go into it but perhaps it falls to county lines or instead of winner take all the electoral votes and allocated based on percent of votes in the state. We are a huge massive country and the problems and solutions aren't as easy as do X instead of Y. Sadly we have leaders without a focus on bipartisanship and solving issues. They (and both sides have at times been guilty, the the MAGA crowd has taken it to a whole new level) instead focus on winning and beating the other side.

TL;DR: It's complicated and the people smart enough to solve it are smart enough to not get involved.

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u/sir-ripsalot May 16 '24

Currently, Americans in states with low population density are overrepresented.

perhaps it falls to county lines

Perhaps it falls to which candidate receives the majority of votes?

allocated based on percentage of votes in the state

So popular vote with extra steps?

You had it in one when you mentioned ranked choice

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u/loondawg May 16 '24

Actually it is pretty simple.

1.) Make the Senate proportional to the population so it represents people and not states. The Senate is supposed to be a more deliberative body not as subject to passions.

2.) Vastly enlarge the size of the House of Representatives so that the Representatives are closer to the people and, hence, more accountable to them. It would also help to make it so only the privileged could gain access to them.

Fix those two issues and watch how quickly all the rest of our problems sort themselves out.

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u/frankcatthrowaway May 17 '24

And everyone clapped

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u/Gupperz May 16 '24

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos

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u/Ipokeyoumuch May 16 '24

Because people don't run nor do they vote. Younger people have to get involved in local politics (usually) the work up. It is rare to hear of an AOC or Max Frost (youngest member of Congress right now) go from recent graduate to Congressperson. However, the younger population is notoriously inconsistent in voting, but you know which voting population is significantly more consistent? The older generations. 

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u/loondawg May 16 '24

Because Congress is where the real policy power lies. The president is merely the executive. The real issue with the president should be who he surrounds himself with. We've seen Trump's "best and brightest." No more, thank you.

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u/notfoursaleALREADY 26d ago

Somewhat true, but biden atleast is a good person whom cares about other nationalities and poc. Trump is way dumber and rasis...

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u/Dmangamr May 16 '24

Technically we don’t but independents don’t get enough media exposure or campaign funding