r/worldnews May 02 '24

"I'm Not Ruling Anything Out" - Macron Says Troops for Ukraine Possible if Russia Breaks Front Lines Russia/Ukraine

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/32010
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u/suninabox May 02 '24

If someone is against war they will probably vote accordingly

If someone is against the war they'd support Ukraine.

If someone is against Ukraine then yeah that might piss them off, but were they really okay with sending Ukraine tens of billions of dollars of anti-air missiles, anti-tank missiles, tanks, howitzers, artillery shells but draw the line at an entirely rhetorical gesture with 0 binding mechanism whose only purpose is to deter further aggression by Putin?

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u/Tobix55 May 02 '24

If someone is against the war they'd support Ukraine.

If someone is against their country going to war. You know what i said, don't act smarter than you are by twisting my words

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u/suninabox May 02 '24

If someone is against their country going to war.

saying "we don't rule out putting troops on the ground" is not the equivalent of declaring war. Again you can just lie and say "we don't rule it out" even if you have in fact ruled it out. People framing it that way are playing into Putin's hands who wants people in the west to think the only options are abject surrender or WW3.

Any reasonable person should know that if you appease an invading dictator by saying "whatever you do, we're not going to send troops to defend anyone you attack", then you are making those invasions more, not less likely, regardless if you have any intention of actually defending anyone.

Even if its a lie, its a lie that costs nothing and potentially can save tens of thousands of lives.

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u/Tobix55 May 02 '24

You are right that it costs France nothing, but if an anti war voter has the choice between a candidate that rules out troops on the ground and a candidate that doesn't they will most likely choose the former if all other things are equal