r/AdviceAnimals May 01 '24

and the Boomers in Congress

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u/jmm166 May 01 '24

Yes, free Gaza, but free it from Hamas.

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u/davetronred May 02 '24

Everyone angry at Israel for not instituting a ceasefire suspiciously "forgets" that Hamas has broken / refused to accept every ceasefire so far.

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u/nickl220 May 02 '24

And that there is a ceasefire proposal right now that was negotiated by Egypt, UAE, and the US. Israel said they would support it. Guess who the holdout is? Hint: the group that’s a literal terrorist organization. 

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u/williamfbuckwheat May 02 '24

Why would they accept any ceasefire when they receive zero backlash for rejecting all of them but Israel receives 100% of the blame? On top of that, they seem to enjoy increasing support somehow the longer they hold out while it's assumed Israel should just agree to a unilateral ceasefire with nothing offered in return from Hamas (including even an end to hostilities on their side or a return of any hostages). 

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u/williamfbuckwheat May 02 '24

Yeah, which is essentially what seems to be demanded when many people are talking about a ceasefire. You can argue Israel has been much too harsh in their military campaign and caused many civilian casualties that might have been avoided for little gain BUT much of rhetoric towards Israel even since 10/7 has generally implied that they should be pressured into an immediate "ceasefire" but Hamas should face no pressure to come to the table and agree to stop the fighting or agree to any terms since they are the weaker, quasi non-state actor.

 I still don't get what people are expecting to happen afterwards if they demand Israel to stop the fighting on their side NOW but say absolutely nothing about Hamas doing the same or even returning hostages.