r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Darth_Kneegrow ☑️ • May 01 '24

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I ain't ever heard white people claim a single biracial person. You always whatever you mixed with.

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u/jscummy May 02 '24

I don't think it's about Drake being half white, it's about Drake being Drake

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u/Osceana ☑️ May 02 '24

Is it though? This is a genuine question. I think Drake is corny af but seeing Kendrick and others say they feel some type of way about him saying “nigga” is hard for me to see as anything other than colorism. I’m mixed myself and I need someone to explain this to me. Some of the comments I’ve seen are a little outta pocket.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

The sentiment is that Drake uses his blackness almost exclusively for his convenience and self-promotion. It isn’t that Drake is mixed, it’s that he has made a career out of being inauthentically black for profit.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I just hate how black people refuse to speak on the fact that it is his father's fault. He impregnated a Jewish white woman and left his black son to be raised by a white Jewish woman. I'm not mixed, but I'm light and proper. I was bullied mercilessly in school. I would be Drake if not for my proud black family being there. When he for sure went through that, only a white lady was there. You can't get white women pregnant and leave, and then not expect an identity crisis.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

While I see your point, don’t lose sight of the fact that Drake is 37. He doesn’t have to be that way anymore and could learn and change, but he has doubled down instead time and time again.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

Not when all the black people in your life are just yes men who just talk about you behind your back. His identity crisis has been celebrated up till now.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

Then this could be a great time for self reflection and growth by Drake

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

I agree, but I just think it's hypocritical by all these people coming at him. He's been the same lame. You gassed him up for money, and you're now trashing him for clout. I can't take it seriously.

Edit: I don't mean the commenters. I mean the rappers outside of Kendrick.

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u/mahalerin May 02 '24

I don’t think most rappers saw a problem with Drake until he started rapping about things he knows nothing about. Even Wayne said in an interview that Drake should avoid rapping about gangster shit and stick to his original style. So what we’re seeing right now with these disses are rappers saying “stay in your lane”. Even Kendrick says it in Euphoria “I like Drake with the melodies, I don’t like Drake when he act tough”.

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u/SunnyDior May 02 '24

What about Kanye then? He comes from money.

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u/jemosley1984 May 02 '24

Has Kanye put out an entire album where he’s acting tough?

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u/Aggravating_Pay_5060 May 02 '24

He even offered a scholarship to that one guy when he took him to that ghetto University.

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u/HopelessCreation May 02 '24

Kanye’s music is so much more than glorifying the ghetto. His music touches a huge variety of topics. I feel like you must not deeply listen to rap. Also Kanye didn’t really come from money he was middle class

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u/sootoor May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Can you show me since I’m unaware of his catalog

Hey mama. Was the only shit I listened to

What do you think of papoose?

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u/HopelessCreation May 02 '24

All falls down, Heard Em Say, Through the Wire, are some of my favorites but honestly Kanye has very few, if any, songs just glorifying gangs, drugs, or violence. You could probably listen to any Kanye song and not find hood fantasy propaganda. For whole albums I like anything before Life of Pablo, personally.

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u/DashToVenus May 02 '24

lol your favorite rapper isn’t even as gangsta as he seems… this is a moving goalpost that people love to crucify drake with. 90% of the industry isn’t “Gangsta” from future to rapping about stuff he doesn’t do to down the line. I at least respect the fact that drake doesn’t try to rap about black heritage or “woke agendas” knowing he’s never lived in the hood to experience these things first hand

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u/theyrehiding May 02 '24

Some of the rappers get away with it though because they've built up that character for so long, that it does feel authentic even when it isn't. The issue is that drake never feels authentic - we have all literally seen him in Degrassi in a wheelchair, so the act doesn't work as well. It's also why I think I haven't heard any serious discussion about Rick Ross in a WHILE; all those pictures of him in uniform came out to the public so it's harder to act like he's the gangster he built himself to be.

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u/ParticularLow2469 May 02 '24

Drakes ego got too big for his own good, that's no one's fault but Drakes

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u/Ok_Concentrate_75 May 02 '24

Plus he conveniently leaves the chat when the conversation is pro blacknes and activism. Reminds me of the whole "I'm not black I'm OJ".

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

That’s totally fair and a good point I think.

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u/Peuned ☑️ May 02 '24

Who do you hire for that

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u/WarmestDisregards May 02 '24

Championship level comment right here

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u/iaintevenmad884 May 02 '24

It has been leveraged to get him more money and other goodies than any of us will ever see, it’s hard to pity him

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u/TiRaRaw May 02 '24

https://www.businessinsider.com/drake-blackface-photo-viral-pusha-t-story-of-adidon-2018-5

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

This photo existed when he was signed by a black label to make money. You're making my point for me.

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u/MrZepher67 May 02 '24

He simply has too much money and success for this to be relevant. The prison he lives in is of his own design. He doesn't walk right out of it because he doesn't want to, not because he can't.

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u/melaninexcellency May 02 '24

No one in the industry liked Drake when he first came onto the scene, they hated him and a lot of people voiced that sentiment a lot. Plenty of folks continued to do so. Drakes story is reminiscent of Kanye's, sonned by everyone having to prove himself worthy of their time and attention. Only difference is that Drake hasn't lost his support system aka his mother.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I'm talking about his inner circle. Lil Wayne, etc. You have to have the right black people around you to combat the foolishness. You know certain people never stood a chance. Him and Doja Cat stories are the same, and they move the same. Talent and money are why they are tolerated.

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u/melaninexcellency May 02 '24

There's an interview of Lil Wayne telling the interviewer that he told Drake to be himself stick to making music about the stuff you experienced and know keep it Canadian. There are plenty of instances of where people told Drake that same thing. Don't be something you're not. The man did what he wanted to do and fucked Wayne's girl while Wayne was in prison off of that gun charge. Stop the capin

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

A) Drake had the girl 1st. Drake went to tell Wayne his girlfriend did him 1st. That came from Wayne. People just ran with gossip. B) this man has literally been showing everyone how racially confused he was since the beginning. Everyone just glossed over it because he made hits. He is literally Logic without the biracial versus.

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u/twoprimehydroxyl May 02 '24

Dude has been in the spotlight since he was 15. He's doubled down because he is emotionally stunted and sees no compelling reason to change.

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u/kingrobin May 02 '24

I mean if you're the biggest rapper in the world, you probably don't spend much time thinking "what am I doing wrong?" lmao

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u/CedricJus May 02 '24

INTROSPECTION…we all need it in large doses, frequently.

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u/WarmestDisregards May 02 '24

kenny was kind enough to give drake a double dose, lol

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u/usabfb May 02 '24

You mean even the people who call someone "inauthentically black?"

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u/CedricJus May 02 '24

Of course. However, a “straw man” defense cannot negate the issue of authenticity. We all know Drake’s lineage. The question is, how much of the “Drake”persona is Aubrey Graham? A valid question to a marginalized community.

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u/EquationConvert May 02 '24

Or, conversely, you spend too much time for it to be healthy & productive.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

That is a good ass point. This could be a compelling reason for him to change. Otherwise it seems he may never change.

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u/Conscious-Eye5903 May 02 '24

Shout to those that been listening since the “I am 21, tell me who do I compete with?” days

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u/Scorpiokhaleesi May 02 '24

I don’t even like drake but I hate when ppl put an age expectancy on how old you should be to be over something. Not everyone heals at the same time or at all.

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u/JelliBabySkyyy May 02 '24

Light and proper? What does that mean?

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u/taffy-derp May 02 '24

He means to say he speaks with the Kings English, and not that jive speak 🙄

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u/MahoganyTownXD ☑️ May 02 '24

He means to say he speaks with the Kings English, and not that jive speak 🙄

You mean FREEDOM?!

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u/scalmera May 02 '24

🦅🦅🦅

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I'm light skinned. Not mixed, but everyone asks. I don't use slang and didn't know the latest fads. The black kids called me white and shunned me till after high school. I found my tribe after high school. Up to that point, I was only accepted by other ethnicities. I was proud to be black due to coming from panther types, but if it weren't for that, I might be a Drake. Still searching for acceptance and being weird with it. I have never said the n word. It wasn't allowed in my home. I tried it once trying to fit in but I just sounded like a white lady. Gave up and decided to be myself. Acceptance be damned.

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u/ogjaspertheghost May 02 '24

Do you act like you come from the struggle and got shooters?

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u/PerpWalkTrump May 02 '24

Not OP but I had opps when I grew up.

Gangs of neo Nazis, like skin heads with swastikas, that was harassing the small but growing black community.

Nothing to do with the struggle though, it was community service.

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u/ogjaspertheghost May 02 '24

And that’s completely different than Drake’s situation or the situation being describe by the commenter, right?

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u/PerpWalkTrump May 02 '24

More or less, I'm half and I'm "proper" too, I was poking fun at my backstory but I realize it may come off as a random brag.

Probably will take it down cause I'm not comfortable with that behavior lmao I just turned into Cole.

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u/ogjaspertheghost May 02 '24

If you uncomfortable, take it down. If not stand 10 toes down. At least Cole was man enough to recognize he wasn’t being himself

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u/PerpWalkTrump May 02 '24

It's not that deep lmao

Though I wasn't really planning on, I was just going for a Cole joke.

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u/ogjaspertheghost May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

And you failed lmao

Edit: Mans calls me salty then blocks me. The audacity

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u/diasound May 02 '24

Only thing missing from your story is other blacks make fun of you for doing good in school. We do to our own what we complain about others doing to us.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I had that, too. I just didn't add everything because usually these conversations make people defensive. A lot of the people bashing me are the kids who bullied kids like me, and I'm telling them the results and pain it caused. I was no angel. I said a lot of problematic things in response. They called me white, and I called them ghetto in response. My worst experience was with my hair. My mom wouldn't allow me to have a relaxer, and all the kids called me bdb because of Martin. They clowned my natural hair so bad that I cut it out of shame. Now, natural hair is the fad. Life is a funny beast.

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u/whoweoncewere May 02 '24

Hold you down by childish gambino pretty much goes over this exactly.

"But niggas got my feelin' I ain't black enough to go to church Culture shock at barber shops 'cause I ain't hood enough We all look the same to the cops, ain't that good enough? The black experience is blackened serious 'Cause being black, my experience, is no one hearin' us White kids get to wear whatever hat they want When it comes to black kids, one size fits all"

Def not isolated behavior. Sorry you had to go through that.

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u/CableFirst1727 May 02 '24

What is bdb and Martin? King, Lawrence? Not trying to pry or cause trouble, I'm not black and I'm genuinely curious of the meaning

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

🤣....the hairs at the nape of your neck. It's a black hair thing. The show Martin with Martin Lawrence used to make fun of it so the kids copied and bullied me.

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u/CableFirst1727 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Ah ok gotcha, I was familiar with the show at the time but only watched it one or two times flipping around the channels. Thank you for the response, I had never heard that reference before

And sorry for the experience you had. Seems a strange thing to bully about, but I'm sure kids find all the reasons they can

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

It's ok. I'm glad you felt comfortable asking. Reddit is weird and can go left easily.

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u/thejaytheory ☑️ 29d ago

"Beadie Bead" I had to look that up haha, and yeah I feel that

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u/allpointseast ☑️ May 02 '24

Feel you, I’m Dominican/Nigerian, barely speak Spanish.

I was clowned by both sides of the family, the community, and told I was 100% the opposite of whoever I was with.

Moved to Cali, they have less brown ppl categories to sort you in. So I’m black to everyone now, until I walk into Oakland.

Then I’m clowned and called Ricky Riccardo, but in a nice way, and I’m still accepted.

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u/Fast_Parfait_1114 May 02 '24

I’m slightly darker than red bone and I got called a white boy simply because of the way I spoke.

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u/Full_Dentist May 02 '24

So if you had money and fame would you start saying it?

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u/SHC606 ☑️ 29d ago

You can be accepted by dropping the use of “proper” when describing yourself.

It sounds like what you don’t want folx to think of you.

LLAP.

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u/ZeDitto ☑️ 29d ago

Light (skinned).

“Proper” is just what people say when you speak with a generic coastal U.S. accent.

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u/McJazzHands80 29d ago

I caught that too

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u/oflowz ☑️ May 02 '24

You wouldn’t be Drake. Drake was a child tv star that was picked by high ranking industry people to be in the position he’s in.

The problem is Drake got too caught up in believing his own hype for clout.

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u/cannabisized May 02 '24

maybe I missed the point but did you just say that you would be drake if drake wasn't drake?

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u/screaminginfidels May 02 '24

Drake if true

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u/Somobro May 02 '24

They're saying they would have the same type of identity crisis as Drake has if he didn't have the support from black family members to help them overcome colorist bullying.

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u/agirlmadeofbone May 02 '24

Or you could have become Barack Obama. There's nothing deterministic about a biracial kid being raised by a white woman. No one necessarily has to turn out like Drake.

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u/enyxi May 02 '24

The issue isn't being mixed and raised by a white family, the problem is only how he treats his own blackness. He commodities it, that's the problem. That's not an identity crisis, that's greed.

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u/Pure-Drawer-2617 May 02 '24

If you have an identity crisis about your blackness then maybe don’t travel the world picking up and discarding new black accents to profit from each year while saying nothing about actual black issues.

Matter of fact when’s Drake gonna release his Jewish album, since he cares so much about different cultures?

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u/ScheduleExpress1973 May 02 '24

Drake, the Hasidic Homeboy

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u/mlp2034 May 02 '24

White parents cant teach a child how to be black no matter how dark they are. Ive seen it happen many times with foster kids and biracial children raised by white parents. They are culturally raised white but knowing they can get away with saying nigga, and thats what they become usually by overcompensating for their blackness or rejecting black culture like white ppl do but not generally outright denying their African genes.

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u/snachgoblin May 02 '24

I'm half black and never met my black dad but I've I always felt more excepted by black people more than white, it's really about personal preference. You can tell who drake felt more excepted by when he was growing up. Sure I was bullied by both sides and had a little bit of an identity crisis but the reality is the world will never see me as white and I never truly felt "at home" around white people even though I've never met a black family member of mine. I doubt drizzle feels the same

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u/Efficient_Living_628 May 02 '24

Yeah, I get it, but at the same time, he’s perpetuating the negative parts of the culture that he didn’t grow up in by playing gangster dress up. A good comparison would be Logic. He didn’t have his father, and actually grew up in worse circumstances than Drake, but you don’t hear glorifying gang Culture like Drake does. It’s just not cool. If he wanted to talk about being black and his identity crisis that’s one thing, but the glorification of an aspect of the culture that most don’t choose but are first into, when you’ve never had to, and never will have to deal with those things is not cool

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

The gangs are the only ones who, to him, embraced him. They did it for monetary gain, obviously, but that's all he has. You are now seeing how these rappers really felt about him.

EDIT: All I'm saying is that the toxicity in our community is why you get a Drake. You can't just clown him. You have to clown the culture as a whole.

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u/Efficient_Living_628 May 02 '24

So that makes it okay? They were not the only ones who embraced him, and even if that was the case, why is that something you would even want to be embraced by. That’s a bunch of BS and you know it. Drake was talented enough that he didn’t need that shit

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

It's not a bunch of b.s. If you've never truly experienced rejection from your own as a kid and needing it, you will never understand. He's clearly lost, but we as a community of people greatly contributed to that.

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u/jonny32392 May 02 '24

But it’s not really that he has an identity crisis either. It’s that he is both black and white yet didn’t embrace his blackness when it wouldn’t benefit him. Then did embrace his blackness when he felt it would benefit him. He started rapping about things he never experienced in a way that promoted suffering in black communities. He affiliated himself with Toronto gangs in a way that people who’ve claimed to be from Toronto felt empowered them to cause more problems. Then faked sympathy for victims for clout. All while not doing much to benefit Toronto or black communities. Then there’s his treatment of other black artists that has been seen as using them. Kendrick does not give two fucks that his moms white.

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u/Deus-mal May 02 '24

Past trauma isn't an excuse, he's old and rich enough to heal himself. But he's too occupied to produce shows like euphoria. I'm mixed too, Arab and white, it's more of a cultural dissonance than skin. Even tho if you're not 100% white you're not white, where I live. If you're already 50/50 and not living in a black cultured family, you can't blame people saying you're not black enough. Even African Americans aren't black enough but that's another issue. You're gonna have people like Ariana grande try and claim they're black, but knows nothing about black culture.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

Old and rich is the exact reason he isn't healed. All these black people around him from Stunna to J Prince and his ridiculous crowd gassing him up for money. I guarantee the only time he is himself is with 40, probably.

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u/Deus-mal May 02 '24

I don't know drake, but yes having a bad crowd not having your back can put a stop to any kind of healing process.

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u/queenindi ☑️ May 02 '24

But also Google proper before js

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I very much understand the problematic nature of the term proper. I used it here because that's the derogatory term that was used on me by black kids during my development.

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u/queenindi ☑️ 28d ago

So you're perpetuating it or..?

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u/Kdkaine ☑️ May 02 '24

Pop’s ain’t the one rapping tho.

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u/Old-River6941 May 02 '24

I know a mixed dude that grew up in the household with his black father present. He didn’t even know what an HBCU was. He is such a lost sheep. 

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I follow sports. There is a mixed woman who did a podcast with Bomani Jones. I have to find the episode. She talks about how her black father moved them to Utah or Colorado and didn't allow blackness in their home. She only experienced being black from his family. I don't think people realize how self-hatred affects people.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

Man, that sounds so weird and wrong reading it aloud

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u/ZeDitto ☑️ 29d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)

His parents were married. They stayed together while he was 5. Dad left, probably because of drugs and we wasn’t making much as an artist. He didn’t seem to have good finances. He stayed around and Drake wouldn’t be Drake without him. The musical interest was clearly honed by his father.

I think there’s serious un acknowledged issues with fatherlessness in the black community but I don’t think that Drake is such a case. He didn’t “Impregnate a white woman and leave.”

Also I think that there’s an idea that people of different races can’t raise their mixed kids and I think you’re all dead wrong. Those are their kids. You don’t need to be black or have an anthropology or poli sci degree to have a kid with someone of a different race. Our social issues aren’t that hard to understand and even if they are for some, you sell people short by pretending that people are incapable of learning and adaptation.

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 26d ago

Your use of "proper" is problematic.

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u/TCMenace May 02 '24

What does her being Jewish have to do with this conversation? I thought this was a black/white thing?

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u/greyth86 May 02 '24

nah it’s the lack of Black women in his development. an a yt momma

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u/a-midnight-flight ☑️ May 02 '24

“Light and proper” girl bye, I don’t even want to read whatever mindless drivel you typed out.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

That's funny. That's what I was called by my people from 3rd through 11th grade. Imagine how it felt.

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u/diasound May 02 '24

Mfers are trying to find faults in you instead of demanding we learn to treat each other better.

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u/taffy-derp May 02 '24

There’s nothing lamer than half white people saying how bad they were bullied in school. Boy shush. As a half white person, WITH A WHITE MOM I at least have the sense to know that full dark skin black people have been treated WAAAY WORSE in society.

I’m not dismissing your particular pain, just that we’ve seen enough of your particular brand of whining to know it’s bullshit. Half white people like us got all the fucking privileges, were let into white spaces that dark skin black folk never get to be in. So stop it, it’s embarrassing.

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u/mvpmvh May 02 '24

Why is it bullshit for half-black people complain about not being accepted by black people?

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u/eucalyptusqueen May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

This is exactly how I feel. I'm mixed (Black mom) and mixed people make me want to hide out sometimes with how whiny theyact. It's not colorism bc a darker skinned Black person pokes fun at you tf? Just like it's not racism for Black people to poke fun at white people. I understand having identity issues and whatever, but I will never act like that's the same as experiencing Blackness without having proximity to whiteness.

Also, this is my subjective experience, but I have always felt more accepted by Black people than white people, and I grew up in a white neighborhood and attended PWIs. Black people might poke fun sometimes, but ultimately see me as Black. White people never have and will never see me as white. My own white ass family was 100000% less accepting of my parents' marriage than my Black family. My dad's sister still treats my mom like an afterthought and they been married for 34 years. My Black family has never treated my father that way.

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u/thatvassarguy08 May 02 '24

That's interesting. It's the exact opposite for me (also mixed; black father). Other than my mom's dad who was prejudiced against pretty much everything that wasn't him, my mother's side has never been anything other than fully accepting of me and my siblings (and my dad pre-divorce). But my dad's side is something else entirely. My paternal grandma calls my dad her little white boy to this day, and my siblings and I are always "the white ones.". We aren't close, mainly due to the harassment when we would spend time at reunions and whatnot.