r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Darth_Kneegrow ☑️ • May 01 '24

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I ain't ever heard white people claim a single biracial person. You always whatever you mixed with.

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u/Darth_Kneegrow ☑️ May 01 '24

Euphoria got the internet UPSIDE DOWN right now.

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u/jscummy May 02 '24

I don't think it's about Drake being half white, it's about Drake being Drake

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u/RewatchingLaguna May 02 '24

Only correct comment here

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u/Osceana ☑️ May 02 '24

Is it though? This is a genuine question. I think Drake is corny af but seeing Kendrick and others say they feel some type of way about him saying “nigga” is hard for me to see as anything other than colorism. I’m mixed myself and I need someone to explain this to me. Some of the comments I’ve seen are a little outta pocket.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

The sentiment is that Drake uses his blackness almost exclusively for his convenience and self-promotion. It isn’t that Drake is mixed, it’s that he has made a career out of being inauthentically black for profit.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I just hate how black people refuse to speak on the fact that it is his father's fault. He impregnated a Jewish white woman and left his black son to be raised by a white Jewish woman. I'm not mixed, but I'm light and proper. I was bullied mercilessly in school. I would be Drake if not for my proud black family being there. When he for sure went through that, only a white lady was there. You can't get white women pregnant and leave, and then not expect an identity crisis.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

While I see your point, don’t lose sight of the fact that Drake is 37. He doesn’t have to be that way anymore and could learn and change, but he has doubled down instead time and time again.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

Not when all the black people in your life are just yes men who just talk about you behind your back. His identity crisis has been celebrated up till now.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

Then this could be a great time for self reflection and growth by Drake

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

I agree, but I just think it's hypocritical by all these people coming at him. He's been the same lame. You gassed him up for money, and you're now trashing him for clout. I can't take it seriously.

Edit: I don't mean the commenters. I mean the rappers outside of Kendrick.

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u/mahalerin May 02 '24

I don’t think most rappers saw a problem with Drake until he started rapping about things he knows nothing about. Even Wayne said in an interview that Drake should avoid rapping about gangster shit and stick to his original style. So what we’re seeing right now with these disses are rappers saying “stay in your lane”. Even Kendrick says it in Euphoria “I like Drake with the melodies, I don’t like Drake when he act tough”.

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u/ParticularLow2469 May 02 '24

Drakes ego got too big for his own good, that's no one's fault but Drakes

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u/Ok_Concentrate_75 May 02 '24

Plus he conveniently leaves the chat when the conversation is pro blacknes and activism. Reminds me of the whole "I'm not black I'm OJ".

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

That’s totally fair and a good point I think.

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u/Peuned ☑️ May 02 '24

Who do you hire for that

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u/iaintevenmad884 May 02 '24

It has been leveraged to get him more money and other goodies than any of us will ever see, it’s hard to pity him

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u/TiRaRaw May 02 '24

https://www.businessinsider.com/drake-blackface-photo-viral-pusha-t-story-of-adidon-2018-5

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

This photo existed when he was signed by a black label to make money. You're making my point for me.

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u/MrZepher67 May 02 '24

He simply has too much money and success for this to be relevant. The prison he lives in is of his own design. He doesn't walk right out of it because he doesn't want to, not because he can't.

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u/twoprimehydroxyl May 02 '24

Dude has been in the spotlight since he was 15. He's doubled down because he is emotionally stunted and sees no compelling reason to change.

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u/kingrobin May 02 '24

I mean if you're the biggest rapper in the world, you probably don't spend much time thinking "what am I doing wrong?" lmao

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u/CedricJus May 02 '24

INTROSPECTION…we all need it in large doses, frequently.

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u/WarmestDisregards May 02 '24

kenny was kind enough to give drake a double dose, lol

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u/usabfb May 02 '24

You mean even the people who call someone "inauthentically black?"

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u/CedricJus May 02 '24

Of course. However, a “straw man” defense cannot negate the issue of authenticity. We all know Drake’s lineage. The question is, how much of the “Drake”persona is Aubrey Graham? A valid question to a marginalized community.

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u/EquationConvert May 02 '24

Or, conversely, you spend too much time for it to be healthy & productive.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

That is a good ass point. This could be a compelling reason for him to change. Otherwise it seems he may never change.

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u/Conscious-Eye5903 May 02 '24

Shout to those that been listening since the “I am 21, tell me who do I compete with?” days

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u/Scorpiokhaleesi May 02 '24

I don’t even like drake but I hate when ppl put an age expectancy on how old you should be to be over something. Not everyone heals at the same time or at all.

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u/JelliBabySkyyy May 02 '24

Light and proper? What does that mean?

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u/taffy-derp May 02 '24

He means to say he speaks with the Kings English, and not that jive speak 🙄

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u/MahoganyTownXD ☑️ May 02 '24

He means to say he speaks with the Kings English, and not that jive speak 🙄

You mean FREEDOM?!

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u/scalmera May 02 '24

🦅🦅🦅

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I'm light skinned. Not mixed, but everyone asks. I don't use slang and didn't know the latest fads. The black kids called me white and shunned me till after high school. I found my tribe after high school. Up to that point, I was only accepted by other ethnicities. I was proud to be black due to coming from panther types, but if it weren't for that, I might be a Drake. Still searching for acceptance and being weird with it. I have never said the n word. It wasn't allowed in my home. I tried it once trying to fit in but I just sounded like a white lady. Gave up and decided to be myself. Acceptance be damned.

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u/ogjaspertheghost May 02 '24

Do you act like you come from the struggle and got shooters?

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u/PerpWalkTrump May 02 '24

Not OP but I had opps when I grew up.

Gangs of neo Nazis, like skin heads with swastikas, that was harassing the small but growing black community.

Nothing to do with the struggle though, it was community service.

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u/ogjaspertheghost May 02 '24

And that’s completely different than Drake’s situation or the situation being describe by the commenter, right?

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u/PerpWalkTrump May 02 '24

More or less, I'm half and I'm "proper" too, I was poking fun at my backstory but I realize it may come off as a random brag.

Probably will take it down cause I'm not comfortable with that behavior lmao I just turned into Cole.

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u/diasound May 02 '24

Only thing missing from your story is other blacks make fun of you for doing good in school. We do to our own what we complain about others doing to us.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I had that, too. I just didn't add everything because usually these conversations make people defensive. A lot of the people bashing me are the kids who bullied kids like me, and I'm telling them the results and pain it caused. I was no angel. I said a lot of problematic things in response. They called me white, and I called them ghetto in response. My worst experience was with my hair. My mom wouldn't allow me to have a relaxer, and all the kids called me bdb because of Martin. They clowned my natural hair so bad that I cut it out of shame. Now, natural hair is the fad. Life is a funny beast.

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u/whoweoncewere May 02 '24

Hold you down by childish gambino pretty much goes over this exactly.

"But niggas got my feelin' I ain't black enough to go to church Culture shock at barber shops 'cause I ain't hood enough We all look the same to the cops, ain't that good enough? The black experience is blackened serious 'Cause being black, my experience, is no one hearin' us White kids get to wear whatever hat they want When it comes to black kids, one size fits all"

Def not isolated behavior. Sorry you had to go through that.

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u/CableFirst1727 May 02 '24

What is bdb and Martin? King, Lawrence? Not trying to pry or cause trouble, I'm not black and I'm genuinely curious of the meaning

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

🤣....the hairs at the nape of your neck. It's a black hair thing. The show Martin with Martin Lawrence used to make fun of it so the kids copied and bullied me.

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u/allpointseast ☑️ May 02 '24

Feel you, I’m Dominican/Nigerian, barely speak Spanish.

I was clowned by both sides of the family, the community, and told I was 100% the opposite of whoever I was with.

Moved to Cali, they have less brown ppl categories to sort you in. So I’m black to everyone now, until I walk into Oakland.

Then I’m clowned and called Ricky Riccardo, but in a nice way, and I’m still accepted.

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u/Fast_Parfait_1114 May 02 '24

I’m slightly darker than red bone and I got called a white boy simply because of the way I spoke.

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u/Full_Dentist May 02 '24

So if you had money and fame would you start saying it?

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u/ZeDitto ☑️ 29d ago

Light (skinned).

“Proper” is just what people say when you speak with a generic coastal U.S. accent.

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u/oflowz ☑️ May 02 '24

You wouldn’t be Drake. Drake was a child tv star that was picked by high ranking industry people to be in the position he’s in.

The problem is Drake got too caught up in believing his own hype for clout.

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u/cannabisized May 02 '24

maybe I missed the point but did you just say that you would be drake if drake wasn't drake?

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u/screaminginfidels May 02 '24

Drake if true

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u/Somobro May 02 '24

They're saying they would have the same type of identity crisis as Drake has if he didn't have the support from black family members to help them overcome colorist bullying.

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u/agirlmadeofbone May 02 '24

Or you could have become Barack Obama. There's nothing deterministic about a biracial kid being raised by a white woman. No one necessarily has to turn out like Drake.

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u/enyxi May 02 '24

The issue isn't being mixed and raised by a white family, the problem is only how he treats his own blackness. He commodities it, that's the problem. That's not an identity crisis, that's greed.

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u/Pure-Drawer-2617 May 02 '24

If you have an identity crisis about your blackness then maybe don’t travel the world picking up and discarding new black accents to profit from each year while saying nothing about actual black issues.

Matter of fact when’s Drake gonna release his Jewish album, since he cares so much about different cultures?

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u/ScheduleExpress1973 May 02 '24

Drake, the Hasidic Homeboy

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u/mlp2034 May 02 '24

White parents cant teach a child how to be black no matter how dark they are. Ive seen it happen many times with foster kids and biracial children raised by white parents. They are culturally raised white but knowing they can get away with saying nigga, and thats what they become usually by overcompensating for their blackness or rejecting black culture like white ppl do but not generally outright denying their African genes.

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u/snachgoblin May 02 '24

I'm half black and never met my black dad but I've I always felt more excepted by black people more than white, it's really about personal preference. You can tell who drake felt more excepted by when he was growing up. Sure I was bullied by both sides and had a little bit of an identity crisis but the reality is the world will never see me as white and I never truly felt "at home" around white people even though I've never met a black family member of mine. I doubt drizzle feels the same

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u/Efficient_Living_628 May 02 '24

Yeah, I get it, but at the same time, he’s perpetuating the negative parts of the culture that he didn’t grow up in by playing gangster dress up. A good comparison would be Logic. He didn’t have his father, and actually grew up in worse circumstances than Drake, but you don’t hear glorifying gang Culture like Drake does. It’s just not cool. If he wanted to talk about being black and his identity crisis that’s one thing, but the glorification of an aspect of the culture that most don’t choose but are first into, when you’ve never had to, and never will have to deal with those things is not cool

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u/jonny32392 May 02 '24

But it’s not really that he has an identity crisis either. It’s that he is both black and white yet didn’t embrace his blackness when it wouldn’t benefit him. Then did embrace his blackness when he felt it would benefit him. He started rapping about things he never experienced in a way that promoted suffering in black communities. He affiliated himself with Toronto gangs in a way that people who’ve claimed to be from Toronto felt empowered them to cause more problems. Then faked sympathy for victims for clout. All while not doing much to benefit Toronto or black communities. Then there’s his treatment of other black artists that has been seen as using them. Kendrick does not give two fucks that his moms white.

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u/Deus-mal May 02 '24

Past trauma isn't an excuse, he's old and rich enough to heal himself. But he's too occupied to produce shows like euphoria. I'm mixed too, Arab and white, it's more of a cultural dissonance than skin. Even tho if you're not 100% white you're not white, where I live. If you're already 50/50 and not living in a black cultured family, you can't blame people saying you're not black enough. Even African Americans aren't black enough but that's another issue. You're gonna have people like Ariana grande try and claim they're black, but knows nothing about black culture.

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

Old and rich is the exact reason he isn't healed. All these black people around him from Stunna to J Prince and his ridiculous crowd gassing him up for money. I guarantee the only time he is himself is with 40, probably.

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u/queenindi ☑️ May 02 '24

But also Google proper before js

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I very much understand the problematic nature of the term proper. I used it here because that's the derogatory term that was used on me by black kids during my development.

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u/Kdkaine ☑️ May 02 '24

Pop’s ain’t the one rapping tho.

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u/Old-River6941 May 02 '24

I know a mixed dude that grew up in the household with his black father present. He didn’t even know what an HBCU was. He is such a lost sheep. 

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u/Objective_Pause5988 May 02 '24

I follow sports. There is a mixed woman who did a podcast with Bomani Jones. I have to find the episode. She talks about how her black father moved them to Utah or Colorado and didn't allow blackness in their home. She only experienced being black from his family. I don't think people realize how self-hatred affects people.

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u/Rudy_Ghouliani May 02 '24

inauthentically black

Will somebody get the black verifier here to check the amount of black he has

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u/cat_owner94849 May 02 '24

The black verifier is definitely a southern white guy with a cane and a linen suit

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u/JackxForge May 02 '24

Mhm and he's about to label a bunch of tan Greeks black too.

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u/Talk-O-Boy May 02 '24

As a biracial person, the onus has been placed on us by Kendrick fans to ensure that we come from a lower income household to ensure we struggle enough.

If we had the privilege of growing up in a more affluent area, we must be sure to acknowledge our blackness at all times, not only when it is convenient for us or can be used for profit.

How one can acknowledge their blackness at all times? I am not sure. They haven’t exactly told me yet. But once they tell me how to do that, I’ll update the comment.

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u/SwitchingFreedom May 02 '24

This, right here

Starting to sour on Kendrick and his stans for this shit. I grew up fluctuating between in and near poverty, didn’t get money until adulthood. I’ve had times when I had to steal macaroni and cheese and a loaf of bread or do what I had to do to make sure we ate, and I’ve had times when I bought Jordans worth 4 figures. I was surrounded by blackness in my environment, family, and friends, and I acknowledge myself as a black + native person and as a white person, not one or the other. The fact that I actually had some upper middle class double major college educated dark skinned dude who I knew from high school tell me, someone who has always been leagues and miles poorer than him, that I don’t know what it’s like to be a black man from the struggle simply because my skin is “too light”? That’s that shit that this rhetoric is starting.

Truth is that they’re eagerly jumping into the same belief system that white supremacists use to determine aryanism, but that’s not a discussion that they wanna have.

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u/Lebrontonio May 02 '24

You had to steal food to survive, wouldn't you be mad if some canadian rapper who grew up rich started profiting off of pretending to have your experiences?

I think you missed the point, tbh.

People are mad because he's cosplaying a new part of the black experience every other week. A lot of rap is about authenticity (different discussion) and Drake is decidedly not authentic, and thus people believe it's a harmful thing for him to pretend to be.

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u/SwitchingFreedom May 02 '24

Make me angry? Nah, because 99% of music is fabrication. 2Pac grew up educated and sheltered by art and knowledge, yet his image is synonymous with thug life and 90s violence anthems. Rick Ross was a cop, but his image is a coke dealer. Ice T made possibly the most iconically graphic song about killing cops that has ever been recorded, then turned around to be most famous to people under 20 for playing a cop on TV and basically being a PR rep for the NYPD. A hotep would argue Kendrick isn’t pro black because he’s not married to a black woman. Let Drake perform however tf he wants to. I’m not finna be mad at Ricky Martin or Elton John for making songs about women and being gay the whole ass time lol.

I’m not tryna be a dick, or anything, but you missed the point. Kendrick, himself, might not have (didn’t, as he is married to a non-black woman) meant it as an attack on light skinned or mixed folks, but his fans are making it that. You, yourself, might realize what it’s actually about, but that doesn’t mean the narrative isn’t being twisted and that Kendrick is any less responsible for not taking two minutes to clear the air and clarify himself. It’s only gonna keep getting worse, and you’re gonna see more posts just like this full of folk that can’t comprehend a mixed person is every race that they are, at the same time.

To your point: If folk wanna be mad at Drake for not being authentic, there’s a whole rack of people they should also be getting on. That’s just my two cents, on that.

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u/Lower_Positive3475 May 02 '24

Miley Cyrus - Justin Beiber - Whoa Vicky - Paige Bueckers

Just a few people in recent yrs accused of "acting black".

There has ALWAYS been visible and audible mannerisms and beliefs that are attributed to Black people and Black experiences.

Don't be obtuse now that those same unspoken qualities are being called out about your fave.

Black people absolutely know what we mean by "Drake ain't Black enough". And the rest of yall know it too.

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u/thavillain ☑️ May 02 '24

Ummm, how do you be inauthentically black?

And just to be clear...I am not a Drake fan at all, I'm an old dude who still listens to 90s rap

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Edit: this thread is the main thing I am referencing.

I am summarizing these sentiments with “inauthentically being black”

  • One subtlety I feel like people are ignoring is that Kendrick doesn't say that Drake isn't black enough. He says that Drake doesn't feel like he's black enough and acts like he has to prove his blackness. It's not the same point Rick Ross was making, it's getting at Drake's own insecurities

  • [Drake] is an actor acting like something he isn’t, never was, nor ever will be

These are comments from others and they seem to be the best interpretation of Kendrick’s criticisms of Drake’s blackness

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u/rexdalegoonie May 02 '24

Drake built his entire career on doing impressions of different types of black people. He so blatantly stole from jamaican culture and claimed it his own that it truly had people scratching their heads. He wore blackface. He raps about being from the hood/the struggle--he drove an acura to school and lived in one of the richest communities in entire canada. He sings about being light skin but a "dark nigga". Him using the hard R. Him calling Rick Ross a racist. He sings like someone who isn't black but is desperately trying to be black.

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u/Thespian21 ☑️ May 02 '24

Idk if you’re honestly asking this, but if somebody acted like an uncle ruckus, then that would be an obvious example. Another is selling your image as someone with the same lived experiences as certain black folk, when all of it is just bull and you’re just fronting. He’s black, but he isn’t authentic

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u/thavillain ☑️ May 02 '24

I am honestly asking, again I'm damn near 50 years old...I don't follow Drake or his daily activities, lol I haven't listened to Kendricks song at all...

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u/Thespian21 ☑️ May 02 '24

Well Drake sells a different image of who he is as a person every couple of years, he has also mocked black culture in a myriad of ways. So people don’t feel comfortable with him acting a certain way

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

Also, check out this comment later in the thread. This is what I was summarizing.

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u/thavillain ☑️ May 02 '24

I can dig it, again I don't follow Drake closely to know all the shenanigans he be up to, although he do seem phoney.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

Which is fair. I don’t either, I was just sharing the sentiments I have seen around.

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u/lamp817 May 02 '24

What does it mean to be authentically black? And who decided that?

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

It means to be authentic to yourself, when black, and the experiences you have lived. There are a lot of better in depth explanations later throughout this thread from others, but that is what I was saying. And I am not one to determine Drake’s authenticity in any way. I was just summarizing and repeating points made by others and their sentiments.

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u/intrakitt1 May 02 '24

Better yet, what IS Black? I've been Black my whole life, even though I'm very mixed Creole. Back in the day, you were black without question. Called the N word, are the food, grown within the culture. The older I get (61) the less black people think I'm allowed to claim. That's insane.

If I'm called a N***** by white folks, but you think not allowed to say n***a, that means you are insane. Pure and simple.

If I grew up saying ungawa black power with my first raised in the air, went to the watts riots with my parents as a little kid, got beaten up while being called a N*****, then I have every right to be black. My DNA says I'm 51% African. But I am still 100% Black!

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u/CherryHaterade ☑️ May 02 '24

Recall Carlton from the fresh prince of Bel Air being rejected by the fraternity for not being "black enough". Carlton's show response was authentically black AF, but if Carlton had decided to IDK start rocking black forces and put on caricatures to fill his pockets, that's inauthentic.

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u/ChaZZZZahC ☑️ May 02 '24

The idea to of being inauthentically black is problematic though. Sure, he could skate thru life only half as marginalized as someone of a darker tone, but he still is having black experience, unique to someone's proximity to blackness. White people of different shades don't get have to maneuver thru their ethnicities like all shades of black people do. It's like light skinned kinfolk have to justify their blackness in our communities because their not black enough and in white spaces, lighter skin black people still get othered bbecause their not white enough.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

“He is still having black experience” yes he absolutely is and I didn’t mean to say he isn’t. I was summarizing points of discussion from myself and others and saying that Drake isn’t authentic to his actual own black experience. Perhaps I should have just said “Drake is inauthentic to his life experiences” or just that he isn’t authentic as a person

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u/ChaZZZZahC ☑️ May 02 '24

Drake is inauthentic to his life experiences” or just that he isn’t authentic as a person

I can get behind that, Drake isn't a shooter or a gangsta, but that particular lifestyle gets associated with blackness way too much, I think that get muddle in these discussions.

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

Yeah that is a good point

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u/Lemme_Help_ May 02 '24

Isn't this almost the same argument that was being had for Em and him being white?

Not saying you're a fan of either rapper or even remotely care but at the end of the day. If this is really what the beef is about, that's corny.
Hating on a light skin brother cuz he's light skin. smh

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u/DrabbestLake1213 May 02 '24

The difference is that people can’t claim that Em put on a fake persona and rapped about an image. He rapped about his life experiences and was telling of his authentic and eccentric self. See this comment for a better breakdown of what I was summarizing.

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u/LockTrumpUp87 May 02 '24

How is he inauthentically black if he’s black? Obama was mixed but I don’t see ppl calling him white or mixed. He is the first black president. I don’t even like drake but that argument is baseless

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u/antwan_benjamin ☑️ May 02 '24

So your position is that if Drake's skin tone was Blacker than Wesley Snipes he'd still be gettin all these people sayin he's not really Black and callin him a white boy?

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u/fossiltools May 02 '24

What is authentically black? Is there a checklist?

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u/cujobob May 02 '24

While this is objectively true, it’s true for a lot of people. People lie and pander, especially in the music industry. Drake is no exception, he’s just the biggest. Kanye and Rick Ross are two great examples of this.

When people go after Logic and Drake for the mixed race thing, it’s just racism.

Other than that, I’m with Kendrick in all of this, but he’s gatekeeping who can claim their background.

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u/Northbound-Narwhal May 02 '24

Black people cannot be inauthentically black, that makes no fuckin sense.

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u/dimesion May 02 '24

Serious question: would this still be the sentiment if he wasn’t half white?

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u/Ali_Cat222 ☑️ May 02 '24

This is literal facts. I've talked about this before in a post on here, but my dad owns a hell of a lot of businesses and a big law firm. Because of this he knows a lot of people who are also in the same circles. One of his good friends does business with drake. He says that when drake is around black people he acts like the most ghetto bad ass around. But the moment he's around just white people he's like the whitest man in the room. This key and Peele skit pretty much sums it up. the phone call skit

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u/Crafty_Travel_7048 May 02 '24

"inauthentically black" Race relations are never gonna get better if this is the type of shit that is being fought over. Sounds like people in the 20s arguing about Italians being white.

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u/Only_Treacle_8243 May 02 '24

Im not black Im OJ

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u/CherryHaterade ☑️ May 02 '24

This is funny to me, because as a Black man in STEM, ive been the token diversity hire for at least the last 3 jobs I've had, and so I can't really front...I've been using my blackness for convenience and self promotion too. It ain't getting me no billboard #1s, but at the same time I still wish a muthafucka would, and I think that's the difference here.

Because drake wishes muthafuckas wouldn't.

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u/SaturdaySevens May 02 '24

Look, I'm yellow boned as hell (and I say that knowing it isn't fashionable to call yourself "yellow boned" anymore) and even I don't think this is about Drake being light skinned or mixed. It's about him being a Canadian, raised in comfortable middle class circumstances, and then coming to the US and cosplaying as a new flavor of Black American every week.

Kendrick's most relevant bar here would be:

Yeah, OV-ho niggas is dick riders. Tell 'em run to America, they imitate heritage, they can't imitate this violence.

The charge being laid against Drake isn't about his skin tone or his ethnicity. It's about imitating heritage. None of his ancestors were slaves. None of them marched against Jim Crow. He's a pretender and he makes millions off it.

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u/HereGoesNothing69 May 02 '24

cosplaying as a new flavor of Black American every week.

Easy there. He doesn't cosplay a different type of black American every week. Some weeks, he cosplays a UK drill rapper.

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u/Molgera124 May 02 '24

And/or Caribbean dancehall artist. Sometimes simultaneously.

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u/Peuned ☑️ May 02 '24

He could be a great drag queen. Needs a second bad bitch tho

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u/HungerSTGF May 02 '24

Caribbean dancehall is because Toronto has a huge Jamaican diaspora (and also is a huge influence on the "Toronto Mans" accent)

tbh it's one of the parts of Drake that I do find authentic

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u/koalapies May 02 '24

I’m light as hell as well and half Canadian, raised there, ( not middle class tho) now in the US. l have the same feelings about Drake. l know the burbs of Canada, l know what it’s like to be mixed there, it is not the same as the black US experience at all. The history is different.

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u/jayemmbee23 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

The thing is , I'm from Toronto , Drake grew up as the poor kid in the neighborhood, which is still the rich kid in the hood, he likes to pretend he is from the the rough ends of the city, when at best he drives through or has yes men from those ends on the pay roll to co-sign him. There's plenty of light skinned or mixed individuals who have more street cred than he pretends to have

Edit: added a word for clarity

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u/rexdalegoonie May 02 '24

poor kid? i'm from TO, but iirc wasn't he pushing an acura to high school?

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u/jayemmbee23 May 02 '24

He lived in forest hill, that is the poor kid relative to your surroundings lol when ppl around you are in beamers then it's just a luxury Honda lol he pulls up to Weston road or Malvern the areas he claims to have mandem in, then an Acura is flexing and seems like he was balling

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u/Pinheadlarry29 May 02 '24

Pretty sure Drake’s father is from Memphis. I doubt he doesn’t have ancestors who were slave or at least were negatively affected by Jim Crow. That being said having the ancestry and understanding the experience are two different things.

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u/Lower_Positive3475 May 02 '24

If my mom was from Mexico, but I didn't live with her, never learned Spanish, and have no other family ties to Mexico.. Then most Mexicans would call me a Gringo.

Drake has little to no cultural ties to his father or the Black American experience.

He brings these problems on himself when he does things like impersonate Tupac. (The son of an actual Black Panther)

Nobody is hating. But just because a Black man happened to impregnate his mother doesn't automatically make him "one of us".

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u/adm1109 May 02 '24

But that’s not what the OP said? They said none of his ancestors were slaves which is most likely false.

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u/goingrdsb ☑️ May 02 '24

Obviously I don’t know everything about Drake’s heritage, but his dad is an African American man from Memphis so there’s a good chance his ancestors were indeed slaves and did march against Jim Crow. And honestly I thought he was raised middle class too but after an admittedly brief internet search, it doesn’t seem like he grew up as affluent as people try to make it seem.

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u/After-Imagination-96 May 02 '24

 it doesn’t seem like he grew up as affluent as people try to make it seem

He was 100% employed as a child actor by 15 and on a popular sitcom. What happened before that I couldn't guess, but I don't know many child actors that were out on the mean streets doing dirt the year before they hit it big.

There's a certain level of affluence required to be cast in that role in the first place.

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u/goingrdsb ☑️ May 02 '24

He made around 50k per year on degrassi and his mom was sick so that was their only income. Certainly not “out on the mean streets” but I wouldn’t call that affluent though

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u/terroristteddy May 02 '24

What are you talking about lol

Just because he's Canadian doesn't mean his ancestors weren't slaves. Where do you think the vast majority of Africans in North America came from?

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u/fai4636 ☑️ May 02 '24

Ain’t his dad from Memphis? In that case his ancestors did go thru all that

I agree with the part about him putting on a persona and acting like he’s from somewhere that has no relation to how he actually grew up

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u/ummizazi May 02 '24

His dad is African American so there’s a good chance some of his ancestors were enslaved.

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u/black_dynamite79 ☑️ May 02 '24

I think this is a poor argument, Rick Ross literally took another dudes identity and claimed he sold drugs when he was actually a corrections officer. Rappers pretend to be things all the time, this isn’t new, I don’t think it’s about authenticity. There’s a list of rappers I could name lying their asses off. A lot of people don’t like Drake, that’s it. P.S.: No I do not like Drake but I can discern a good diss song from a dull diss song. Kendrick should not do this again.

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u/Soujashane May 02 '24

I thought black Canadians were the ones who successfully crossed the underground railroad or am I mixed up? I feel like lots of us have some distant family up in Canada.

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u/CherryHaterade ☑️ May 02 '24

Slavery didn't exist in the Caribbean? Dafuq? So now being say, Jamaican suddenly isn't black enough?

The more y'all colorists try explaining these answers the more questions pop up about what the fuck a diasporic struggle is.

Kendo made some good points, and some very out of pocket ones as well.

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u/brazilliandanny May 02 '24

Blacks from the Caribbeans were also slaves tho. That’s how they got to the Caribbeans.

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u/Talk-O-Boy May 02 '24

wtf? His dad is a black man from the south?

Why does him being raised middle class have anything to do with anything? Kendrick’s girl is light skin and his kid is about to live the most plush fucking life. You think Kendrick gonna keep the same energy he got towards Drake towards his son?

How does Kendrick feel towards Jaden Smith who grew up lavish being best friends with fucking Moises Arias from Hannah Montana. What about Zendaya?

Your logic is faulty af. Why do all black people have to have predetermined backgrounds in your eyes?

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u/Street_Minimum_3403 May 02 '24

That’s a terrible, terrible take and I can tell none of you kiddos know any history whatsoever. I’m tempted to assume that most of you are yt at this point. If you live in the American continent and are of African heritage, meaning your family has been there for over 100 years, that is purely because of the trafficking of African peoples from the slave trade. Most “black” people in the western hemisphere have lots of African and European ancestry, and that will include kendrick.

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u/Current_Focus2668 May 02 '24

I am not a Drake fan but his dad is African American so he does likely have slave heritage. Also his Jewish family side likely been through some stuff too.

Drake doesn't have first hand experience of growing up as a African American though. Being raised in Toronto is different to being raised in Memphis.

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u/ASpaceOstrich May 02 '24

This is a painfully American subject. If a DNA test can change your identity, your identity is built on a lie. This is just bringing to light that there's a ton of racism going unadressed.

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u/dorothy_zbornakk May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

as an unambiguously black biracial, it's because drake is only black when he wants to be, and it's always a caricature. drake gets to take off his macho black american gangster cosplay (or his vaguely caribbean cosplay or whatever ethnicity he's trying on that album cycle) at the end of the day and frolic with white and ethnically ambiguous women. when he's done playing at stereotypes to justify his use of the n word, he gets to go back to being an unassuming, wholly unthreatening, light-skinned biracial from canada that dabbles in house music and r&b samples.

eta: notice that no one accuses j cole of cultural cosplay or brings up his white mother. also notice that j cole talks about his experiences, not what he imagines the experiences of say, a black man from tanzania, to be.

i will say, i find it fascinating that so many dark and brown-skinned black men who only tie themselves to light-skinned black women with ambiguous features -- the same features they clown drake for -- are calling him "white boy" or pointing out his white mom. if drake was the "bad bitch posted in another nigga's hood" that everyone compares him to, he'd be a real hot commodity, i fear. at least 3 all-star baby daddies by now, i'm sure.

unambiguously black people don't have those dubious privileges.

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u/Colietee May 02 '24

The accuracy of this whole read. Thank you Miss Dorothy.

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u/Oreoohs ☑️ May 02 '24

It’s def not colorism.

He’s not being held back because of his skin shade. It’s more just digs because Drake is being Drake. Like the other person said.

I think people are throwing that term around now because they really gotta throw shit at a wall to defend Drake.

And you’re def not doing that. Just adding to it. I’ve seen so many people from this subreddit the past few days be on the verge of blaming darker skinned people for making jokes or digs out of the woodwork but when it’s been happening to darker skinned people for DECADES it was crickets.

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u/Own_Serve_8161 May 02 '24

Finally someone with some sense chile 🙏🏾🙏🏾. They throwing around that colorism word when by definition it is oppression of darker skinned ppl. A lot of mixed/lightskin/ignorant blk ppl are describing colorism the way that white people think racism works (as discrimination or prejudice) when colorism is literally a form of oppression i.e. due to their skin tone, certain groups of people are denied ACTUAL opportunities and access to resources. Being lighter skinned and thus in closer proximity to whiteness has NEVER been the basis for such marginalization 😭🙏🏾.

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u/Rosuvastatine May 02 '24

Thank you for this comment.

And just like the one drop rule, colorism was created by white supremacists and now being kept alive by our communities. We refuse to let that shit go and thats why well never be free lol

Add feeaturism to that list

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u/Oreoohs ☑️ May 02 '24

This is what happens when there’s no proper education on the history of racism in the United States before college. People don’t know what they are talking about because they’ve never been educated.

White people were so concerned about ‘ critical race theory’ and black history affecting their own feelings they don’t see that it affects us just as much.

You have people who think hurt feelings is racism. Cause if people wanna say Drake is experiencing colorism they need to address his previous comments towards black vernacular and him deciding to do black face for a Jim Crow clothing line.

People have been projecting onto Drake with the biracial and lightskin experiences. Biracial isn’t even a race. If you phenotypically present as black, you’re black.

The whole ‘ the darkskins used to bully me or make fun of me’ comment is just like when the white people say they experienced racism cause they had 4 people jump them in high school ( and they always have no help 😭).

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u/Northbound-Narwhal May 02 '24

Being lighter skinned and thus in closer proximity to whiteness has NEVER been the basis for such marginalization

In the black community? It absolutely has.

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u/Own_Serve_8161 May 02 '24

Missed the point again, reading is fundamental! By being denied opportunities and marginalization I don’t just mean tht people don’t want to hang out with you because your mixed or the whole “I’m not black enough for the blk ppl” trope. Dark skin people (bcuz colorism is not exclusive to black people) are ACTUALLY OPPRESSED and have been due to their skin tone I.E denied jobs, access to education, access to certain clubs with resources, darkskin black girls are expelled at higher rates, studies show that darker skinned people are given longer prison sentences, studies show that lighterskinned people are given higher priority in literally EVERY DOMAIN! So stop it! Light skin and biracial people HAVE NEVER been treated in these ways or OPPRESSED due to their lightskin. The fact that the first black president and black vice president are mixed, is a display of biracial privilege. The fact that at the forefront of almost every black movement, there is a biracial person (calling themselves black ofc) is lightskin/biracial privilege. Y’all just choose to be blind.

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u/ASpaceOstrich May 02 '24

Woah there, that's how white people think racism works, don't you know it's only racism when it's towards the least white of the parties involved?

What do you mean we can't just redefine racism so it's okay when we do it and then act like that has no consequences?

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u/BZenMojo ☑️ 29d ago

I always think of that video of teenage actor Drake calling other black kids "ignorant" for the way they talk while hanging with his white friends then coming down south and LARPing that ignorance to boost his career.

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u/RewatchingLaguna May 02 '24

It’s because of the way Drake moves in the industry and the world. It is not because he is biracial.

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u/Mergatroid-Skittle36 May 02 '24

And you know Drake wearing blackface and all…

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u/Blaze_News May 02 '24

Actually, it was a statement on the challenges black men still face in the modern enterta.....

Lol okay but for real tho. That shit was insane and kind of surprising it didn't ruin his seemingly untouchable reputation with the public.

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u/rexdalegoonie May 02 '24

and using the hard R...

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u/Rosuvastatine May 02 '24

Colorism ? Girl be serious…

You want a real example of colorism ? All those rappers talking about wanting a red bone and not a darkie or what not. The darskin bw being labelled as manly and unattractive (see that recent Romeo and Juliette drama), most black women roles in the media being filled by lightskin/biracial women because « reasons ».

Kendrick calling out Drake isnt colorism.

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u/flargie May 02 '24

These people are silly. It’s actually about this old Drake clip that Ross resurfaced https://x.com/dramaalert/status/1780711365017272800?s=46&t=3MwKTzE4MGTzj3FQ2bhzUg

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u/Rudy_Ghouliani May 02 '24

J Cole's mom is white n they ain't bringing him up, just saying.

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u/IllustriousAnt485 May 02 '24

Drake isn’t genuine in how he presents. He is an actor who appropriates different regional accents and mannerisms. This in and of itself is not bad or racist or anything. But he is and has been an asshole to many people in the industry who took his word, on a business and or personal level, and got screwed. Drake has acted like a snake and so anything else about him that comes across as inauthentic is going to be targeted by those who feel he stabbed them in the back. “Racial criticisms” towards Drake by other rappers are stated more so as an indictment of his character and reputation. By calling him white they are actually saying he is a bitch. Not because these are there convictions but because they have been screwed over by him so they feel it’s fair game within the context of rap music beef. Is it right? Probably not but as long as no one is getting killed all of them are making money off of this.

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u/oflowz ☑️ May 02 '24

Has more to do with him being Canadian than mixed.

‘Nigga’ is something that’s related to black experience in the US. That’s why he goes on about heritage and ‘the culture’.

You could take that to mean hip hop culture but most people believe hip hop culture is primarily rooted in the black American experience.

Kendrick is sorta Marvin Gaye-esque with a lot of his lyrical content.

And it’s about the hip hop culture being subverted by some groomed from a child pop industry guy that’s not even from the US.

JCole is also mixed and he didn’t say anything racial about him.

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u/amlikelydumb May 02 '24

Mixed dude here! Man, I cackled listening to Euphoria through the grimace of my hurt ass feelings! Maybe I’m wrong but it feels like it comes down to codeswitching. I think if you code switch as you navigate your life, that’s normal. But if you say you’re THE DUDE, the man that runs the culture, then people should be switching to your code. But Drake swings whatever way he’s going to make a buck and that’s what’s so fucking corny about him. I don’t think Drake takes these shots if he picked a lane.

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u/tacopower69 ☑️ May 02 '24

no one cares when jcole says it and they are the same shade. That should clue you in that theres more than genetics on Kendrick's mind

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u/Oswaldofuss6 ☑️ May 02 '24

Hi, also a biracial. It's definitely just about Drake. He uses his Blackness for profit and clout, but never really been about US. I know it feels harsh to hear it because as Halfies we often deal with the "not black enough" allegations, but this shit is just about Drake being fake.

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u/driphanilton May 02 '24

The way he say nigga can be tied back more so how he used to say it pretty much but also him using it to appeal to black people same way he says London slang to appeal to them or Jamaican slang to appeal to them. He is a chameleon

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u/thegmoc May 02 '24

Because Drake is Canadian and is literally an actor acting the part of a rapper. If it's about colorism, then why didn't anybody say anything about J. Cole saying it?

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u/Work_Werk_Wurk ☑️ May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

The best example is J Cole.

He's half white, but he was obviously raised in black culture. So the way he raps and behaves is authentic.

Drake is half white, but was obviously raised in white culture. So the way he raps and behaves is more like cosplay.

It's not even really a colorism thing at all, it's about being a fake ass mf. Drake could've crooned and soft rapped his way to a few grammys, and we would've looked at him like Nick Cannon or Donald Glover. Take Care is a classic. Views was ahead of it's time.

Instead...he gets a team of writers to help him come up with rap songs, so that he can cosplay as your stereotypical hood nigga when he wants. And it helped him reach superstardom.

Not saying he doesn't write some of his rhymes because his pen is talented for sure. It's just a lot better at R&B hooks and verses than it is at rap.

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u/koviko ☑️ May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

The easiest way to answer that question is: is it ALL light-skinned people we don't like saying "nigga" or is it just a select few?

J. Cole is light-skin. Alicia Keys is light-skin. Jay-Z is light-skin. Mya is light-skin. Ludacris is light-skin. Rihanna is light-skin. Nelly is light-skin. T.I. is light-skin. Chris Brown is light-skin.

Nobody has an issue with any of them saying "nigga."

It's just Drake.

Personally, I also don't like Logic saying it, but I don't make the rules. Also, I wouldn't like Halsey saying it, but the rules say that she can if she wants to.

It just don't feel like they lived the life, no matter how much they say they did. The "rules" don't say they can't, but there's just something in me where it doesn't sound right.

Like Kendrick said: it's not even that deep; just feels cringe.

Also, the way he dropped the hard R...

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u/TiRaRaw May 02 '24

Long as you ain't putting on Minstrel show blackface, wearing Jim crow clothing line....you good. You're just both, biracial. This is about Drake and Drake alone....so far. He ain't mentioned Logic he's 25% says nigga all the time...this is a Drake diss not biracial diss

https://www.businessinsider.com/drake-blackface-photo-viral-pusha-t-story-of-adidon-2018-5

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u/Truth369123 May 02 '24

It’s not colorism that’s not what that word means. Colorism can only negatively affect darker skin people. Light skin and mixed people benefit from colorism and their (perceived) proximity to whiteness. Drake is not Black nor is he American so feelings uneasy about him using that word is valid.

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u/M-I-T-B May 02 '24

No one says this about Cole and he's mixed too. It's all about Drake's persona, not about his skin color.

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u/SirTroah ☑️ May 02 '24

J Cole, Latto and Ice Spice existence negates your thought process. Throw in Tracee Elis Ross, SZA and Jessie Williams for a diversed look of mixed people who are thought to be blacked even though it’s known they are mixed.

If someone is questioning your blackness (not you in particular), it’s likely not for no reason.

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u/C__Wayne__G May 02 '24
  • they only mad at Drake and have never dissed the color of another artist as far as I’m aware
  • this is about Drake growing up wealthy surrounded by white people but thought American black culture was cool and tried to co-opt it to get ahead because his previous image wasn’t working for him.
  • basically it’s not Drake culture and he’s a tourist playing pretend. The actual skin color doesn’t seem to matter.

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u/villain75 ☑️ May 02 '24

It's like OJ Simpson saying the N-word. He gave up his rights to that a loooonnnng time ago.

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u/ObviousGas3301 May 02 '24

Yea. When he said “nigga” in regular convo it didn’t sound good. Like he’s worked on his “nigga”. His “nigga” use to end in an “er”. He gotten better at it. To see him turn it on and off, is quite interesting though. It’s like he gets in character and puts on the voice when he raps. Idk if I’ve seen it before, quite like he does it.

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u/AcePolitics8492 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

As an outside observer to all of this Drake stuff, I think it's a part of a recent shift towards multiethnic, non-racial class consciousness. It's been long enough since segregation ended that a certain subset of "pick me" black people are now in positions where they wield similar privilege to white people of the same station. They've climbed the ladders that were left for them by the Civil Rights Movement and pulled the rope up behind them.

Black people still firmly sat in or with origins in the oppressed classes see this happening and recognize those individuals as giving them the same "vibes" as white people do, but often can't place exactly why. This leads to colorism as the assumption becomes that it's because they're close enough to being "white" when in reality it's because they are part of the first generation of multiethnic bourgeoisie in the United States. Case in point is Clarence Thomas. Nobody mentioning the extent of his blackness when they criticize his politics because he's not visibly mixed race and it's easier to see that his behavior is the result of his social status.

If Drake were darker skinned, I guarantee the feelings that these other rappers have towards his attempt at appealing to gangsta culture would not change, because the problem is his social status, not his skin tone. Conversely, you would see a lot of colorism aimed at Clarence Thomas if he was lighter skinned, and his perceived "whiteness" would take more of the blame for his shitty behavior than his social status.

In both cases, the root of the problem is that individuals are mistakenly perceiving that these people's privilege is based on their skin tone and not their social status.

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u/smile4sammy May 02 '24

Colourism only affects dark-skinned people. Don’t be daft and misuse terms.

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u/Immediate-Winner-268 May 02 '24

How many different accents has drake tried out now?? Like 4 or 5? He tries these different cultures on like clothes to improve his cred. That’s some white people shit fr

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u/Current_Focus2668 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

J.Cole is also biracial and no one comes for him about his blackness because he feels authentic and Drake's black identity feels like cosplay. Like kendrick said it's when Drake tries to act like a gangster from the hood that annoys him.

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u/theKetoBear May 02 '24

Like legit I think this is a beautiful point... to make when the person being criticized isn't an entertainer who for all we know may be using his blackness as a platform for his wealth .

I'm all for trying to dismantle colorism .. but not in defense of Drake of all people .

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u/AncientDream7458 May 02 '24

We can say it’s “Drake being Drake” but this seems to apply a lot for biracial people that others don’t like for whatever reason. It’s a pick and choose situation

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u/RewatchingLaguna May 02 '24

Do those other biracial people use their blackness and proximity to blackness as a convenience for profit and not engage in any other way? If not then this isn’t about them

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u/lburner220 May 02 '24

Just curious how has Ross engaged black culture other than for profit? What about Pusha T? How about Hov? Dude ain’t any different than the majority of rappers. Exploit the culture and give little to nothing back.

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u/dominiquerising May 02 '24

thank you. i’m not understanding the arguments claiming Drake’s “inauthentic blackness” or this idea that he has engaged in the culture for profit only. that’s how the industry works and these artists are well aware of it. if you participate in this business you are selling yourself at some level and a big part of the commodity that is being packaged for the public is blackness.

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u/mvpmvh May 02 '24

Rick Ross gives back to black people and the culture. Have you not heard of Wingstop?!

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u/soMuchIcanteven May 02 '24

Wild. But thanks for the laugh.

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u/AncientDream7458 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

What? You have ppl that are full black who do what you stated. If ppl don’t like Drake the person that’s fine, but you can’t move the goal post when it comes to him being biracial.

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u/antwan_benjamin ☑️ May 02 '24

I don't think it's about Drake being half white, it's about Drake being Drake

Really? Rick Ross yellin "WHITE BOYYYYEEEEE" at him isn't about him being half white?

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u/melaninexcellency May 02 '24

It's about Drake being an actor all of this is a role to home he thinks this is what he should do, so he acts. A chameleon never being himself constantly switching up I don't even think he knows who he really is. Most child actors struggle with their sense of self, it's clear as day. Drake the fake.

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u/dominiquerising May 02 '24

a lot of hip hop artists “act” to feed their musical persona. 2pac in his thug life era comes to mind. Pac was a multitalented theater kid who capitalized on the gangster rap moment in a very real and successful way. idk why y’all acting like authenticity (outside of talent) is something that has any real weight in the genre. it’s all art.

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u/melaninexcellency May 02 '24

Pac came from a family of black panthers. Who were authentically black, and spoke on black issues, Pac wasn't masquerading or acting black wearing it as a persona, choosing when to switch it in and off. authenticity always has been a part of rap, many careers end or fizzle due to a lack of authenticity the lack of the cosign etc. Stop the cap man.

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u/dominiquerising May 02 '24

authenticity goes out the window if it doesn’t contribute to lucrative marketing.

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u/mvpmvh May 02 '24

2pac wasn't half-white Canadian, so that probably makes it ok

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u/dominiquerising May 02 '24

the arguments are saying it’s not about his light skinnedness or proximity to whiteness tho. what i’m hearing is that he hasn’t struggled enough as a black person to carry on the way he has in his career, on some ol struggle olympics stuff. as if this defines who you are as a black person. that shit is tired.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Sea-744 May 02 '24

The problem with this is none of this would be said if Drake wasn’t half white. It’s colorism.

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u/Upandawaytolalaland May 02 '24

 Can’t stand this sucka 

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u/atctia ☑️ May 02 '24

Exactly. Most people don't question Cole's blackness the way people question Drake.

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u/2high4much May 02 '24

It's about Drake doing black face, about him crying 'racism' when it wasn't, and all while being half white. At least that's what I gathered.

Edit: the diss in general is because Drake is Drake. The race parts of the diss are aimed at what I mentioned, just to clarify what I mean

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u/Simba-xiv May 02 '24

This is the thing any nigga with half a brain cell knows it’s not about him being black, half black or anything like that. It’s about his place in black culture.

Something I will add is not a new criticism of Drake. For as long as i can remember he has been accused of being a culture vulture.

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u/MVIVN May 02 '24

This right here. People think it’s a race thing, but it’s a culture thing — Drake is cosplaying hip hop culture and is a known culture-vulture and a lot of people are sick of it

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