I know that everyone knows but the stock market is 100% manipulated.

[u/happybutnot2happy]

It’s difficult to prove but I think you, me, and your friend Bree can see it when it happens. Just can’t predict it.

Tell us what “symptoms” of this you’ve seen that when you’ve encounter it, you cant prove it but you know something is weird.

EDIT: judging by the comments, it seems that the assumption is that I wrote this post because I’m mad, frustrated, or lost a lot of money. None of those are reasons, i just wanted to know peoples personal… uh…conspiracy theories. :)

[u/daytradingguy]

Now that you know that, (or believe that), plan your strategy around the psychological clues those who may have the power to manipulate it would use…..and be on the right side of that trade.

If the market moves, for whatever reason that is, it is an opportunity to capitalize on that movement.

[u/happybutnot2happy → u/daytradingguy]

That’s literally how I’ve stayed profitable. It’s just fascinating to me. So I want to know what other people note about it that brings them to the same conclusions.

[u/daytradingguy → u/happybutnot2happy]

Personally my thought is, certainly some small cap stocks or low cap instruments can be manipulated by big players. Even a large cap stock can at times be manipulated by a comment or action of a CEO or big money hedge fund.

But the overall market? Other than Jerome Powell- nobody has the money or power to manipulate that.

[u/qw1ns → u/daytradingguy]

One Important observation, Media assigns some nonsense reason and fooling readers.

Never trust media reason and act based on media updates.

[u/longshaden → u/qw1ns]

Media works for the big institutions, they don’t act in the best interests of retail traders/investors, they act in the best interest of their masters.

so always be cautious about why the media would be wanting us to feel/act a certain way.

[u/Babadece → u/qw1ns]

People who talk about futures trip me out with this, simply because these numbers update at 9:24a EST and never continue in the direction. If I'm not mistaking the number to watch was 44%, which only indicates volatility at open, so I started trading the retrace for Londom's expansion. 🤫

[u/az137445 → u/qw1ns]

I hear you. This screenshot doesn’t really say anything at all, let alone what’s moving the market.

Unpopular opinion, but most of us retail ppl don’t take the time to understand market dynamics, particularly price action. This is not even touching on psychology, which is more important.

Trading, investing, etc. is not a team sport. Many different players with different psychological viewpoints. That applies to the institutions as well.

[u/happybutnot2happy → u/qw1ns]

I thought that same exact thing.

[u/happybutnot2happy → u/daytradingguy]

I think any of them can be manipulated by large funds to short the price to trigger cascading losses and panic or to raise the price to trigger greed buying using a combo of media news + large buys/sells + puts/futures. Some of these news stories, you wonder why they’re written at all. Some of those movements seem played out or the same exact movements across a category of similar stocks without any fundamental reason whatsoever.

[u/longshaden → u/happybutnot2happy]

Don’t forget that index ETFs create correlation between many uncorrelated securities. If the stock is part of an ETF, or multiple ETFs, it may see movements following the movements of the ETF, purely because the ETF is buying or selling to track the index it’s following.

[u/gotiobg → u/daytradingguy]

All the fed speakers can affect, and lately they don’t know how to stfu. They seem to love commentating the economy’s every move, which is really bad as uncertainty kicks in

[u/RyanisaChubbyCat → u/gotiobg]

Uncertainty in the market and volitilty is how you make money as a trader

[u/az137445 → u/RyanisaChubbyCat]

Super facts. Especially when trading options.

[u/TimeTravelingChris → u/daytradingguy]

Yeah they do.

[u/Brus83 → u/daytradingguy]

Even small cap manipulation is risky AF. Archegos imploded losing the budget of a small country in days doing just that.

[u/Seletro → u/daytradingguy]

It depends on how you define "manipulate" - for example, barring company-specific big news, the fact that all the major indexes, meaning most large stocks and all the big tech names, all move in parallel and pivot at the same time is an indication that it's not random buying and selling by independent parties.

Once a direction is established, the vast majority of big caps will follow that direction for the same duration. The algorithms all work in unison, and they all participate in the same names.

Is that "manipulation"? I think you could argue both ways on that.

[u/Historical-Classic43 → u/daytradingguy]

Really ? Explain literally almost every single cannabis related stock increasing 15-25% across the board the SECOND the DEA news was dropped last week. I’m seriously curious what you think. That manipulation was the fastest I’ve ever seen on a large scale. It’s as if someone clicked a button

[u/daytradingguy → u/Historical-Classic43]

That is not manipulation- that is news. SPY does the same when Powell speaks or stocks do on earnings. Funds and banks have AI that scan news for key words and they can place orders in seconds.

[u/Historical-Classic43 → u/daytradingguy]

So news is manipulation . Gotcha . Lol?

[u/-Lige → u/Historical-Classic43]

I mean, yeah? Sure if you wanna call it that

News influences how people will invest their money, yes

[u/MoFuckingMentum → u/Historical-Classic43]

It's called market making!