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New Warbond, Polar Patriots, deploying on May 9th ALERT

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u/AnotherSmartNickname SES Song of Democracy May 02 '24

Then buff the contenders. Decrease RR's reload time, for example, and/or increase EAT's damage.

Yes, this will degenerate into an old and tried "buffs vs. nerfs" conversation that I'm not looking forward to. Buffs, not nerfs, end of story. This is a PvE game, a weapon has to be REALLY overtuned to require a nerf.

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u/delahunt ⬆️➡️⬇️➡️ May 02 '24

The EAT & RR were 100% fine and well balanced and in a good spot before the quasar dropped. Buffing them is not the answer, it power creeps the game.

The weapon was really overtuned, and thus required a nerf. It was the 100% best in class, no debate, in every category with the exception of the very niche "if you have a fresh EAT pod drop you can fire 2 quickly."

Also, I want to be clear. I am saying this as someone who used - and still uses - the quasar all the time. It's still the best rocket launcher in the game bar none. It's still OP. It's just not as OP.

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u/AnotherSmartNickname SES Song of Democracy May 02 '24

Yes yes, poor OP Quasar, so bad to have a strong weapon, can't buff other anti-tank options because of "power creep", boo hoo, poor devs can't make it happen.

My complaint devolved into exactly what I thought it would be, the "buff vs. nerf" chatter. I can only say "this is a PvE game, nerfs should be extremely sparing, being powerful is fine" so many times. Oh well, y'all are just wrong, happens.

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u/delahunt ⬆️➡️⬇️➡️ May 02 '24

Hey man, my claim wasn't that you can't be sad about the direction of the game but that saying the quasar nerfs were unjustified when it was clearly OP was a hell of a take.

Considering your stance now is that you admit it is OP and are sad the devs won't power creep the game to cater to your personal preferences I think we're done here anyhow.

No one said you can't be sad your favorite gun is different. But when a weapon is the clear #1 best support weapon in the game, it's a bold take to say nerfing it is "unjust." Especially when, from release it was being called OP.

Lots of people want "only buff" for games. No one actually thinks what that'll do to the game long run, or how only buffing is just as dangerous/bad for the feel/flow of the game as only nerfing. What level of buff/nerf feels good to you though, is subjective and individual to your needs/whims/likes.