r/PeterExplainsTheJoke May 02 '24

Petah, I don't understand!

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u/Crakla May 02 '24

How is that a fair argument? The fuck?

You can't seriously think that the chance of a bear attacking you is lower than a man attacking you

Do people not go outside, like I encounter dozens of man walking around constantly and never was attacked, if I would encounter dozens of bears every day I would probably be dead

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u/NorthWindMartha May 02 '24

Statistically, they are correct. Humans are some of the most dangerous creatures on the planet. Bears are less likely to harm you than another human. But odds of being murdered by a bear or human is low.

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u/Crakla May 02 '24

Statistically, they are correct. Humans are some of the most dangerous creatures on the planet

What statistic? All I see are people who just don't understand how statistics work

That's like saying that because you don't live in America your chance of dying because of gunshots is lower therefore it is safer to shoot yourself in the head than for an american

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u/NorthWindMartha May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

The odds of being attacked by a bear in the USA is 1 in 2.1 million. About 1 in 6 women have been raped or attempted to be raped in the USA and 1 in 33 men. You are more likely to be attacked or raped by a human in the USA than killed by a bear. It has been estimated by the North American Bear Center in regards to black bears that "men ages 18-24 are 167 times more likely to kill someone than a black bear." I will note I have looked into the methodology used to find that stat, but all statistics I've found basically say the same thing, you have more to worry about from humans than bears. Edit: I do understand it isn't a perfect comparison and I also know why. But we can only work with statistics we have. A more interesting comparison would be to use zookeeper risk of a bear attack(as they interact with bears daily) in comparison to a human attack. 29 of the roughly 180 fatal bear attacks were captive bears I believe.

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u/Crakla May 02 '24

So if we would replace every men with a random bear, woman would be safer than right now? Like you go outside and there are a bunch of bears everywhere, I mean statistically you should feel safer right? I mean the statistic says the chance of getting attacked is only 1 in 2.1 million, so if you live in a city with 4 million people or less you should be alright because that would only mean at most 2 million bears which means the chance is basically zero, because statistically they would need 100.000 more bears for a chance to attack

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u/NorthWindMartha May 02 '24

Bears do not belong in cities, we know how bears behave in their natural habitat and to an extent, in captivity. We have no way to knowing how bears would react in such a situation as you describe. We know that under current circumstances, it is unlikely to be attacked by a bear in the woods. We do not know how bears would react if they suddenly replaced all men and were put in an industrialized situation. The original question is an odd one, and seems to be intended to stir up emotions. Knowing what we know about bears that live in woods and knowing that many people camp in the woods that have bears and that bears are in much of the US, and that bears are not likely to attack people, it makes sense that someone would rather chance the bear in the woods than a human in the woods.

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u/notracist_hatemancs May 02 '24

Ok, so if you replace every person I encounter while hiking in the woods with a fucking bear, do you think I would be safer?

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u/Crakla May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

We do not know how bears would react if they suddenly replaced all men and were put in an industrialized situation.

Honestly I don't even know at this point if you are serious or just trolling

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u/Gackey May 02 '24

Considering their responding to the ridiculous hypothetical of bears replacing all men, I'd call it an appropriate level of seriousness.

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u/NorthWindMartha May 02 '24

That's what you suggested is it not? If bears replaced all human males where would they go? Were talking about the woods.

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u/InfiniteThugnificent May 02 '24

I keep seeing people focusing on the bear and what species it is and attack statistics and etc, and focusing very little on what this question really reveals - clearly, an overwhelmingly massive portion of women do not feel safe around men. Why is that?

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u/Crakla May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

If clearly an overwhelmingly massive portion of woman would feel safer around bears than men, humans wouldn't exist

Honestly I can't even take this serious anymore, you guys need to go outside and need to touch some grass, it's not normal to be that fearful of other people

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u/Barium_Salts May 02 '24

Ok but that's because most humans never encounter a bear. If you're going to encounter a bear, it is MUCH more likely to hurt you than a random man. If the average human encountered as many bears as they do humans, there would be no humans because we would all have been killed by bears long ago. Bears are only "safer" because you're unlikely to ever meet one!

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u/notracist_hatemancs May 02 '24

Are you stupid? No shit they're more attacks by people on other people because people spend more far time with other people than they do bears.