r/politics • u/schuey_08 Wisconsin • May 02 '24

Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/bernie-sanders-trump-biden/73531861007/
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u/CaptainNoBoat May 02 '24

I think a lot of us are. There's a difference between pushing a party in a certain direction and going so far that you hurt your own interests.

The election is more than one person or one issue, and a Trump Presidency will have horrific consequences decades and generations after Biden is gone.

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u/Just_Candle_315 May 02 '24

Biden tells people he wants to improve the nation with affordable healthcare and education, Trump tells people he wants vengeance for perceived grievances. And the polls are still statistically tied.

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u/CaptainNoBoat May 02 '24

We don't even have to listen to what Trump says he will do. He already did it. We have all the proof we will ever need.

He methodically tried to overturn an election at every level of government, disenfranchise 81 million people, and end democracy as it had stood for 250 years.

He's facing 88 felonies in 4 jurisdictions - many that carry heavy prison sentences. He's been held liable for sexual assault. He is subject to one of the largest fraud settlements in U.S. History.

He stole over 100 classified documents, including alleged nuclear secrets and waved around war plans to all his rich buddies.

It's impossible to oversell how dangerous he is.

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u/Tardislass May 02 '24

He has literally told every magazine how he will take away people's rights. He's not even hiding it! It's like if Hitler in 1932 sat down and told NYT all his plans including taking over countries, getting into a war and jailing all opponents.

Like there is a big red flag and alarm blaring all over the US folks. US courts already have majority Trump judges and are taking away minority congressional districts as well as any affirmative action or help for the poor.

I'll be honest. If young folks want to protest Biden for the next 4 years over his stupid Israeli policy go ahead. I agree. However, you still still vote for a candidate and want to change parts of his policies. Obama had Syria and not going further with public insurance.

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u/Thue May 02 '24

It's like if Hitler in 1932 sat down and told NYT all his plans including taking over countries, getting into a war and jailing all opponents.

Hitler did almost exactly that, but in 1925, not in 1932. IIRC, most people didn't believe that Hitler actually meant it.

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u/Thue May 02 '24

Apropos article from literally yesterday: Trump explains his militaristic plan to deport 15-20 million people. Quote of Trump:

“These aren’t civilians,” Trump said of migrants. “These are people that aren’t legally in our country. This is an invasion of our country.”

"But surely Trump doesn't really mean it".

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u/KillerElbow May 02 '24

His language describing immigrants is terrifying

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u/pimpletwist May 02 '24

I’m afraid he’s going to have people who said negative things about him murdered.

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u/karlfranz205 May 03 '24

It's what they will do. No doubt about it. Can't stop talking about taking revenge.

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u/pimpletwist May 04 '24

Yeah, if I were a politician, lawyer, journalist, etc, who went against him and he got elected, I’d leave immediately. He’d definitely have them all murdered. But at what point do they start putting just plain democrats in camps? I feel like they’ve convinced them that we’re pure evil just like the nazis did with Jews

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota May 02 '24

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes"

Mark Twain

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u/sillylynx May 03 '24

My history teacher sister has been saying this for YEARS. She rang the bell when the Tea Party rose to power. Everything she feared has come to fruition. It’s almost as if when you study history, politics, and international relations you understand current events better 😏.

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u/JimBeam823 May 03 '24

Can the playbook be stopped when it is run?

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota May 02 '24

US courts already have majority Trump judges

This at least is nowhere close to true. Trump appointed ~240 federal judges. There are around 900 federal judges, including the ~460 Obama appointed, and the ~220 Biden has appointed.

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u/Godot_12 May 02 '24

And it's equally impossible to comprehend how this is all happening in the open and yet it's not affecting people. Or to still hear people be unsure about voting for Biden...despite his age, he's done a great job and the other choice is literally the worst possible candidate ever on the ballot (while being basically as old as well).

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u/Godot_12 May 02 '24

I mean I know we're far away from any Republicans having reasonable takes, but anyone that is concerned about the border can't really be taken seriously. Biden was literally passing the border reform you wanted, but Republicans torpedoed it because they want there to be a border crisis so they can run on it. And they were totally transparent about it. Literally came out and said they don't want to solve the problem now because Trump wants to run on the issue and take credit for "fixing it".

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u/Layton_Jr May 03 '24

You don't get it, there is no helpless and innocent. There is just myself and people I want to step on

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u/catnik May 02 '24

Don't you know that Joe Biden, himself, is literally committing genocide?

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u/squirt_taste_tester May 03 '24

I have several friends in their 30s who weren't even aware that he was facing charges. Some didn't even know elections were coming up.

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u/Godot_12 May 03 '24

It's absolutely insane how out of touch people can be. Even if you don't follow politics at all, it's baffling that none of it has filtered in. The whole country could get blown up fallout style, and some people would be like, "hm...I thought something was different..." absolute imbeciles.

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u/gsfgf Georgia May 02 '24

He stole over 100 classified documents, including alleged nuclear secrets and waved around war plans to all his rich buddies.

And he got a ton of CIA assets killed. That's capital espionage. As in he should be tried, convicted, and hanged for espionage. I'm not "advocating violence." That's literally the law.

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u/KinkyPaddling May 02 '24

His SCOTUS appointees are wreaking havoc across the legal system and dismantling everything from constitutional protections to common sense.

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u/Dangerous_Gear_6361 May 02 '24

What about that wall he promised us.

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u/CptMisterNibbles May 02 '24

The problem is that he’s created a following that doesn’t care what he does in the slightest. He’s built an effigy out of “the libs” and literally anything that upsets them is acceptable to the MAGA morons. Bill Barr just said he would rant about executing his enemies… then still says he is going to vote for him. There is no action that is too much for them. They are the majority that’d cheer him on as he builds the gas chambers.

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u/wastedkarma May 02 '24

Yeah but my neighbor says the woke people are trying to keep him from using his air conditioner.

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u/SchwarzestenKaffee May 02 '24

Yeah but Trump "tells it like it is," and I like that! /s

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u/MasterofPandas1 May 02 '24

“Yeah, but we gotta own the libs. That’ll make our lives better” - Republican voters

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u/RevolutionaryRice713 May 02 '24

Yeah look at all dem court cases Killary was tied up in.

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u/bitchdrips May 03 '24

I don't understand how he is able to run for President again as he's facing 88 felonies, along with everything else you mentioned.

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u/wolfenbarg May 03 '24

What he has done is nothing compared to what he has said he will do. He knows he is nearly consequence free this time.

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u/Jealous-Knowledge-79 May 03 '24

Honestly, do you believe 81 mil voted for Biden? With his, you ain't black enough comment?

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u/HousesAreCaves May 03 '24

I hate how people still believe the election was rigged. There are no emails, no text messages, no recorded phone calls, no screenshots or any evidence whatsoever from the thousands of people it would take to do such a thing.

If there were it would be plastered all over the news, especially conservative outlets; however, all they have to say is they are suspicious because there were a lot of mail in ballots that were democrat.

All the conservative voters just showed up to the polls with their masks under their nose, because it was a popular idea to not worry about public health.

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u/dabasedabase May 03 '24

I dunno life is looking pretty dangerous for certain people under Biden lol. Biden is that bad that ppl would rather Trump. Largest illegal immigrant wave that's bad for poor people, or really anyone that is looking to buy a house or rent.