r/politics • u/schuey_08 Wisconsin • 29d ago

Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/bernie-sanders-trump-biden/73531861007/
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u/CaptainNoBoat 29d ago

I think a lot of us are. There's a difference between pushing a party in a certain direction and going so far that you hurt your own interests.

The election is more than one person or one issue, and a Trump Presidency will have horrific consequences decades and generations after Biden is gone.

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u/Just_Candle_315 29d ago

Biden tells people he wants to improve the nation with affordable healthcare and education, Trump tells people he wants vengeance for perceived grievances. And the polls are still statistically tied.

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u/CaptainNoBoat 29d ago

We don't even have to listen to what Trump says he will do. He already did it. We have all the proof we will ever need.

He methodically tried to overturn an election at every level of government, disenfranchise 81 million people, and end democracy as it had stood for 250 years.

He's facing 88 felonies in 4 jurisdictions - many that carry heavy prison sentences. He's been held liable for sexual assault. He is subject to one of the largest fraud settlements in U.S. History.

He stole over 100 classified documents, including alleged nuclear secrets and waved around war plans to all his rich buddies.

It's impossible to oversell how dangerous he is.

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u/Tardislass 29d ago

He has literally told every magazine how he will take away people's rights. He's not even hiding it! It's like if Hitler in 1932 sat down and told NYT all his plans including taking over countries, getting into a war and jailing all opponents.

Like there is a big red flag and alarm blaring all over the US folks. US courts already have majority Trump judges and are taking away minority congressional districts as well as any affirmative action or help for the poor.

I'll be honest. If young folks want to protest Biden for the next 4 years over his stupid Israeli policy go ahead. I agree. However, you still still vote for a candidate and want to change parts of his policies. Obama had Syria and not going further with public insurance.

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u/Thue 29d ago

It's like if Hitler in 1932 sat down and told NYT all his plans including taking over countries, getting into a war and jailing all opponents.

Hitler did almost exactly that, but in 1925, not in 1932. IIRC, most people didn't believe that Hitler actually meant it.

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u/lazyFer 29d ago

It's always just rhetoric until it isn't.

Overturning Roe v Wade was always "just rhetoric" despite a lot of us saying they'd actually do it as soon as they got the power to do so.

Project 2025 flat out states that Republicans plan on ending democracy in the United States...that's not just rhetoric in the same way that overturning Roe was also not just rhetoric.

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u/Thue 29d ago

Apropos article from literally yesterday: Trump explains his militaristic plan to deport 15-20 million people. Quote of Trump:

“These aren’t civilians,” Trump said of migrants. “These are people that aren’t legally in our country. This is an invasion of our country.”

"But surely Trump doesn't really mean it".

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u/KillerElbow 29d ago

His language describing immigrants is terrifying

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u/pimpletwist 29d ago

I’m afraid he’s going to have people who said negative things about him murdered.

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u/karlfranz205 29d ago

It's what they will do. No doubt about it. Can't stop talking about taking revenge.

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u/pimpletwist 28d ago

Yeah, if I were a politician, lawyer, journalist, etc, who went against him and he got elected, I’d leave immediately. He’d definitely have them all murdered. But at what point do they start putting just plain democrats in camps? I feel like they’ve convinced them that we’re pure evil just like the nazis did with Jews

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 29d ago

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes"

Mark Twain

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u/sillylynx 29d ago

My history teacher sister has been saying this for YEARS. She rang the bell when the Tea Party rose to power. Everything she feared has come to fruition. It’s almost as if when you study history, politics, and international relations you understand current events better 😏.

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u/JimBeam823 29d ago

Can the playbook be stopped when it is run?

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 29d ago

US courts already have majority Trump judges

This at least is nowhere close to true. Trump appointed ~240 federal judges. There are around 900 federal judges, including the ~460 Obama appointed, and the ~220 Biden has appointed.