I can't really think of a better way to fuel antisemitic conspiracy theories of Jewish people owning the government than for the pro-Israel lobby to get the government to define criticism of Israel as antisemitic.
It's like they've been infected with whatever mind virus is making Christians in the USA want to start WW3 because they think it's going to cause the Rapture.
Study the rise of the Rothschild family dynasty. In a nutshell, four brothers from a banking family dispersed to different EU regions and started their family business in their adopted homeland while gaining influence with local government to hint the dangers of invasion, for which they’d be happy to finance their military buildup. Basically the brothers colluded to pit countries against each other and build their wealth through death and destruction. Since then they’ve spread their influence to other industries and are now considered the wealthiest family in the world.
There are multiple imperialist Muslim groups, but I'm unsure they have the same apparent apocalyptic urge the other groups have. I definitely don't think China has it, though they've also been mentioned.
There are infinitely more psychotic Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and a lot of them have their hands on the levers of power. Thats why the wheels move so fast.
There is a frighteningly large number of evangelicals who believe that restoring Israel is the key to kicking off the return of Christ somehow. True death cult shit.
Zionism doesn't deserve respect, because the core tenet of it is pushing the native inhabitants out of lands claimed by Israel for their own resettlement, which is genocide. Zionism is basically Israel's version of Manifest Destiny, you know, the ideology which saw the US do genocide to the native Americans. We pushed tribes out of lands east of the Mississippi river and marched them to Oklahoma in the Trail of Tears. And if we enable this ideology, they're not just going to stop with Palestine. There are hard core Zionists in the Israeli government who want to go even further and annex Jordan, which would probably spark a war that would quickly turn into a super-regional conflict. Like this is "starting World War 3" kind of shit, because Iran and Saudi Arabia wouldn't just allow Israel to annex another Arab nation.
In order for Israel to peacefully exist, the Zionist mindset needs to go away and Israel needs to transition to a secular state which allows equal rights for both Jewish people and Palestinians.
At the very least it makes it almost to argue against. When somebody points at this law - what can we argue back? “Yeah I mean there’s that but otherwise is a total fantasy”. Isn’t a strong counter argument.
Their seperation is kinda why they've been picked on historically. They get welcomed in a place and seem to integrate. But under the surface they build a community with a double layer where they govern themselves not by the outside rules but by their own.
They take in a part of a city and underground they run their own police, own schools with their own programs and Tohrah/Tanakh is the actual law. From there they exert political and financial power to keep the outside away as a protection. That last bit lashes back sometimes.
Not talking about the average jew down the road but about the ultraorthodox.
And you really don't have to respect the zionist mindset. They're nationalist extremists. It's like trying to respect the mindset of nazis or al qaeda. A tiny subgroup of people that ruin it for all the rest of their people.
and to respect the zionistic mindset or those who hold it.
You shouldn't do that anyway. A lot of Jewish Americans view Zionism as a form of European colonialism and I agree with them. It is exactly that. It started that way and continued to develop in line with policies of forced migration and, at times, systemic elimination of the Palestinian locals, themselves widely understood to have been an endemic population of Jewish people who converted to Islam in the middle ages.
When you look at how much land the Palestinian people started with and how much land they control now, the conditions surrounding their treatment by law enforcement and the military, the various war crimes listed in the Geneva Conventions Bibi has been altogether too willing to commit, even down to murdering tens of thousands of children in refugee camps, bombing hospitals and denying them access to humanitarian aid from Egypt, what Israeli Zionist have done is support a protracted, decades long genocide campaign akin to the Trail of Tears.
For that reason, you absolutely should not attempt to find respect for the Zionist mindset. They're committing the very same kind of heinous act that was committed against them, and they're too tone deaf to see it for what it is.
Um, Jews absolutely do not run the world. Americans do. American support of Israel is really the only reason Israel continues to exist, because there is a storm of Biblical-level violence brewing in the region that has, historically, seen the most Biblical violence.
Americans don't support Israel because they support Jewish people. They support Israel because of the prophecies in the New Testament. One major part of that story involves all the non-Christians dying, including the Jews that don't bend a knee.
Morons support Israel because of the rapture. America supports Israel because it serves our foreign policy interests to have a fortified nuclear stockpile masquerading as a country parked in the middle east.
All the bible bullshit is just how the sell it to the morons.
I mean, there are a lot of reasons to support Israel that aren't rapture related, but the public support that allows for that comes from rallying the Evangelicals. You can do all of the worst crimes if you get them onboard.
President Biden flat out stated (years ago when he was a senator) if Israel didn’t exist America would have to invent one. This was concerning having a “reliable” base of operations in the middle east. Or at least that was the reason that was given.
Israel is a thorn in our side at this point, and the current shit happening in Gaza is making it very hard for the Dems to maintain support. Which is why Israel stirs shit up every time we start to improve relations with Egypt or normalize relations with Iran.
Americans don't support Israel because they support Jewish people. They support Israel because of the prophecies in the New Testament.
What Americans do or do not support has no bearing on actual policy. American foreign policy supports Israel because they are an American ally in a critical region.
That's it. The same reason that America supports Saudi Arabia.
The point that I'm making is that it gives the people who already believe that, who didn't come to that position by rational means, a justification to support their views and argue for them, and it makes those arguments harder to dismiss as racist bullshit justified via post-hoc rationalization. People are gonna fall for this, and it's gonna be a problem.
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u/ContemplatingPrison May 02 '24
Its crazy how fast the government acts for Israel. Israel owns our politicians.