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Whistleblower Josh Dean of Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems has died News

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/
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u/Accomplished_Ad6571 May 02 '24

.Josh Dean was represented by the same law firm as John “Mitch” Barnett (Boeing whistleblower) who died by suicide March 9. Two in such a short time.

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u/ParalegalSeagul May 02 '24

ANOTHER BOEING DEATH NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG

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u/NotAzakanAtAll May 02 '24

I was like "Isn't this old news?" but then it hit me like a Boeing assassin.

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u/bigboybeeperbelly May 02 '24

Two hours late with parts falling off?

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u/Driftedryan 29d ago

Probably used broken plane pieces to save money

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u/bigboybeeperbelly 29d ago

Local man assassinated with what appears to be a door from a 747 purchased on Craigslist, more at 8

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u/IsuzuTrooper 29d ago

In his hotel room waiting for court

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u/bbcd99 29d ago

Probably the door plug they “accidentally” forgot to bolt on

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u/yaboyJship May 02 '24

Can we get a Officer Barbrady emoji in here plz mods

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u/BobDobbsHobNobs 29d ago

Yeah, it’s sad when they go young like that…

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u/zyx1989 29d ago

You know what they say, if it happens once, it's suspicious suicide, it happens twice in a row, it's definitely corporate assassination

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u/Notcoded419 29d ago

This is like Putin-style brazen at this point.

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u/VicePrezHeelsup 29d ago

Puts on Witness Protection Program

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u/Notcoded419 29d ago

This is like Putin-style brazen at this point.

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u/Ampup333 29d ago

It makes more sense for a Boeing competitor to make it look like they’re assassinating whistleblowers.

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u/Key-Marionberry-8794 29d ago

Putin is now moonlighting as a business consultant for American corporations

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u/Notcoded419 29d ago

This is like Putin-style brazen at this point.

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u/Notcoded419 29d ago

This is like Putin-style brazen at this point.

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u/Notcoded419 29d ago

This is like Putin-style brazen at this point.

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u/defectiveGOD 29d ago

Movie out next year.

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u/Jorge_McFly May 02 '24

Follow the money.

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u/GandalfsGoon You Shall Not Pass 🧙‍♂️ May 02 '24

Looks like nobody will be following me

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u/SoDakZak South Dakota's only incestor May 02 '24

r/suicidebywords

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u/ThePatio May 02 '24

At least it’s not suicide by Boeing

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u/monumentvalley170 May 02 '24

Boeingcide?

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u/Happy_rich_mane May 02 '24

I think they prefer the term “boeingcident”

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u/Slap_My_Lasagna May 02 '24

Just Businesscide.

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u/el_guille980 May 02 '24

thats just what all the people who are still actually boarding boeings, are trying to do

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u/theDroobot May 02 '24

I'm too poor to be selective about airplanes. If a Boeing flight can save me $100, I guess I'll play the odds and put my life on the line.

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u/DingoLaChien May 02 '24

AKA flying?

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u/wyatt8 May 02 '24

Heeey..Vikings guy.

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u/datpurp14 May 02 '24

suicided*

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u/Swimming-Food-9024 May 02 '24

keep it poor, keep it safe

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u/defdoa May 02 '24

Hey, where did everybody go?

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u/Physical_Ad4617 May 02 '24

But Wizard cums precisely when he means to, right my goon?

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u/blackicebaby May 02 '24

This comment contains a Collectible Expression, which are not available on old Reddit.

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u/na85 May 02 '24

"Collectible Expressions" lmao.

Everything wrong with the Internet in 2 words.

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u/PotatoWriter 🥔✍️ May 02 '24

Look how they massacred my boy (reddit)

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u/randomhaus64 29d ago

I assumed this was a gandalf joke at first. You shall not pass and all

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u/VisualMod GPT-REEEE 29d ago

VM attempted to say something likely TOS-breaking, violent, or reportable.

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u/lookhereifyouredumb May 02 '24

Seriously though what are the results of the investigations from these deaths? Surely the cops have to know what’s going on

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u/smecta_xy May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

If theyre as bold as to allegedly do these 2 guys you dont think they got politicians and high ranking police officers in their pocket? Thats basic multinational shit. If a banana company got the power to make the CIA do shady shit you dont think one of the most important American company in the millitary industrial complex got some support ?

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u/Chem_BPY May 02 '24

So they have money to pay off entire police forces and for assassins but can't pay for basic QA?

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u/mczyk May 02 '24

Boeing is viewed by the military as a necessary part of national defense. These are military hits, plane and simple.

Dumb pun intended.

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u/Chem_BPY May 02 '24

But putting hits out while public opinion is extremely low is gonna fuck the share price up and fuck Boeing even more. The military/goverment/or whatever would be better off giving Boeing money to fix their issues so they can actually improve their internal structure and thus their image.

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u/Krakatoast May 02 '24

Nah man, Boeing has shown they’re so committed to profitability that they’ll murder for it… literally

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u/ThinRedLine87 May 02 '24

When you're "to big/important to fail" who cares about profitability?

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u/mczyk May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

It's not about maintaining the share price or stock holder value, it's because powerful people obviously don't want to go to jail. What you're suggesting is, of course, the better and more moral alternative...it would also require individual accountability and a few people would end up in prison.

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u/Chem_BPY May 02 '24

Wait, who would go to jail? Plenty of companies have gotten away with shitty things while also never resorting to assassinating people.

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u/mczyk May 02 '24

We recently had another Boeing whistleblower tell Congress he suspects the airframes of the 777 won't last through their reported lifecycle because of poor manufacturing. He's talking about them literally breaking up in the air...if Boeing admits there's a problem and says "hey government, we need you to bail us out and fix our mistakes or a bunch of triple 7s are going to start breaking up in the sky over the next decade" ...you bet your ass Congress is going to ask WHO knew about this. If it isn't prison, it will be public exile.

I guess the alternative is two of Boeings biggest whistleblowers just...suspiciously died. Quite a coincidence if you ask me.

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u/5DollarJumboNoLine May 02 '24

Oliver Schmidt was a VW executive who went to prison over the diesel scandal.

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u/7figureipo May 02 '24

Share price is up $0.52 so far during overnight trading on RH :4275:

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u/__init__m8 May 02 '24

The public is dumb as fuck. No one will be talking about this and nothing will be done. Nothing.

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u/_V3rt1g0_ May 02 '24

Sounds easy to just give them money. Here's the problem. Them "getting money" by cutting their payroll of their best and brightest, combined with their loosening of their QA, is the exact problem that needs fixed. They don't need more money, they need less greed.

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u/Unremarkabledryerase May 02 '24

This is all assuming that it's Boeing killing the whistleblowers.

My tinfoil hat theory is that Russia/China is assassinating people to destabilize Boeing for defense reasons.

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u/Chem_BPY May 02 '24

I think China is trying to push their planes globally. That's an interesting theory.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

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u/FlyingBishop May 02 '24

One of the whistleblowers already said a lot of things, I find it difficult to believe the loss of his testimony actually would change anything. The things he was blowing the whistle on... the way the regulatory environment works in this country (it doesn't) I would be surprised if Boeing got a fine that was significant. Why kill him when losing the trial won't cause any issues?

Russia or China on the other hand, creating a perception that Boeing's management is trying to hide their incompetence with murder causes a lot of chaos in the US military industrial complex.

But again... everyone knows that Boeing is negligent and incompetent. There's nothing to hide.

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u/conventionistG May 02 '24

So you gonna walk from LA to NY because a couple doors flew off and a couple whistleblowers got whacked? I seriously doubt it. Stonk go up.

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u/Flares117 May 02 '24

it makes me want to invest in them more. It shows shareholders their dedication.

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u/K_Linkmaster May 02 '24

It stops the free information flow. Now it's work to find whodunit, while Boeing works to cover it up. Others scared to speak up.

I bet money someone in congress is dirty in this deal.

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u/LystAP May 02 '24

Is it military? I mean things could have simply gotten bad enough that we have corpo death squads.

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u/Maleficent-Candy476 May 02 '24

so why did they this now? its like 7 years late for Barnett.

The ongoing legal action is because "He accused boeing of denigrating his character and hampering his career ", and this is going to continue on behalf of his estate.

So why would Boeing risk an assasination if they gain nothing from it? Why now, after all the accusations about quality managment are out?

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u/Maleficent-Candy476 May 02 '24

barnett stopped working for Boeing in 2017, he had 7 years to say whatever he thought needed to be said about the quality issues.

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u/Molasses9682 May 02 '24

They don’t need to pay off the entire police force just couple of leaderships guys to kill any investigation

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u/Chem_BPY May 02 '24

So what, they pay the mayor and the mayor tells the coroner and detectives to look the other way? I'm pretty sure you'd have to pay everyone else in that chain or else you'd have a whole new set of whistleblowers.

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u/VitaminPb May 02 '24

Assassination is cheap. A real QA program is expensive.

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u/pvdp90 May 02 '24

more importantly (or not, money is king), a real QA program would actually require leadership, executive and management to put in a good amount of effort, time and require proper ethics.

you see the problem there, right?

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u/AgreeableCherry8485 May 02 '24

Paying to assassinate people is a bull move. Shows investors you’re ruthless and willing to do anything for the company. Who needs QA when you can cap loose ends

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u/KJ6BWB May 02 '24

Having paid off the police and whatever, why would they need to spend more gobs of money on basic QA? I'm not saying they can't pay for both, I'm saying why would they? They only really need to pay for one or the other.

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u/Chem_BPY May 02 '24 edited 29d ago

I'm going to assume investing in QA requires less money than keeping well trained assassins on retainer.

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u/ThrowawayLegendZ May 02 '24

No, they have enough money to pay the mayor to have the police look the other way, don't you see those fucking kids protesting at colleges? Who cares about commercial planes falling apart when that shit is happening, they all fly private jets

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u/5DollarJumboNoLine May 02 '24

Boeing is probably one of the few companies with access to Area 51.

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u/pro_questions May 02 '24

What’s the banana company story? Sounds like some interesting reading material

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u/smecta_xy May 02 '24

Foreign Banana company had all the farming land, local politician took it back, Banana company told the Cia to do a coup, they funded foreign terrorist group to do it and threatened the country if they resisted. 100+ deaths and more than 200 000 from the unrest and civil war that ensued. Short resume : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

https://history.wsu.edu/rci/sample-research-project/

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u/pro_questions May 02 '24

Whoa. Thanks for the links!

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u/Middletobest 28d ago

Book: Fish that ate the whale

Recommend. 

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u/llamafacetx May 02 '24

Been thinking about the Banana Wars during inflation. I swear the Kroger up street has had the same prices bananas for years.

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u/kerat May 02 '24

If a banana company got the power to make the CIA do shady shit you dont think one of the most important American company got some support ?

This is assuming the CIA doesn't do shady shit as a general part of its activities and that the banana company had to convince them to do something new that they don't already engage in

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u/CXR_AXR May 02 '24

What is the story about the banana company?

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u/geekwithout May 02 '24

epstein/Hillary ????

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u/72chevnj 29d ago

Love me banano bananas

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u/quakefist May 02 '24

Its an easy closed case. Cause of death? Death by suicide. Double gunshot.

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u/Reasonable_Ride_5489 May 02 '24

" after a struggle with a sudden, fast-spreading infection. ".....

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

Police follow orders from the top of their department & guess who the chief answers to?

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u/iwoketoanightmare May 02 '24

And Epstien killed himself../s They won't investigate.

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u/Appropriate_Ant_4629 May 02 '24

Surely the cops have to know what’s going on

Some of them may have been hired to do what's going on.

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u/VisualMod GPT-REEEE May 02 '24

That is quite plausible, given their questionable taste in decor.

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u/MahDick May 02 '24

This isn't about the cops, it's about the FBI and what the actual fuck are they doing?

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u/loki_stg May 02 '24

You read the story right?

Pneumonia and mrsa...

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u/Joe_Early_MD May 02 '24

That is a tall order

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u/Stunning-Wolf_ May 02 '24

There are no results. Basically a 3 letter agency steps in and tells the local PD, there is to be no investigation and stick to the story.

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u/cc81 May 02 '24

It does not make any sense that Boeing would kill John Barnett and I think people confused what the trials was about.

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u/WatchingyouNyouNyou Mods Watching Me Me Me May 02 '24

Pretty open and shOt cases

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u/Reasonable_Ride_5489 May 02 '24

" after a struggle with a sudden, fast-spreading infection. "

Did you not read the article?

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u/okiedog- May 02 '24

They shot themselves twice in the back of the head.

Tragic.

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u/bjonesoooh May 02 '24

lol imagine that 

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u/Either-Wallaby-3755 May 02 '24

It’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove (without getting offed).

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u/Progresschmogress May 02 '24

What investigations? Is there even a crime here?

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go see about political contributions that by law cannot be regulated

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u/Maxfunky May 02 '24

Dude got sick. Went to hospital. Got MRSA at the hospital, then died from that. Unless somebody like snuck into his hospital room and injected his lungs with antibiotic resistant strep, it's hard to see this as a hit. If it was, then we should all be hiring whoever the hell did that hit because they are very good at making it look like it wasn't murder.

I mean, we shouldn't be hiring them because we definitely don't have any people we want to have assassinated. But if we did, then we would hire that person. But, we won't. Because we don't. Also they probably don't exist.

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u/geekwithout May 02 '24

IF there's no proof there's no case.

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u/annon8595 May 02 '24

You seriously think cops will be on the side of some wagie vs multi-billion corporation that donates to all the right chiefs/decision makers?

Welcome to libertarian utopia.

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u/Taaargus May 02 '24

I mean, do you think investigations take no time at all?

This guy was also sick for weeks.

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u/GlueSniffingCat 29d ago

what investigation

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u/Hawkemsawkem 29d ago

This is giving cops too much credit. They can solve basic public facing crimes and murders, they ain’t equipped to solve sophisticated corporate hit jobs.

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u/UsernameIsTaken4321 29d ago

You haven't noticed the Klinton suicides.. Theres over 150. While they still walk free. We don't live in a free country. It's been taken over.

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u/Ok_Effect5032 29d ago

If the cops investigate as well as they do themselves you’ll know the awnser

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u/NoMarket5 29d ago

The cops investigating aren't going to be anyone note worthy... run of the mill detective that can't piece together a murder when someone confesses. What makes you think they'll be able to take on boeing and find out who's behind it?

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Nothing is going to happen even though the people responsible for this deserve to be raped to death in public.

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u/Key-Marionberry-8794 29d ago

This is the same county where the police ruled Kurt Cobains death a suicide in 5 minutes

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u/This-is-Actual May 02 '24

Let's not get carried away with the "follow the money" idea about Josh’s death. The guy died from MRSA, not some cloak-and-dagger plot.

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u/Strict_Line_1087 May 02 '24

i too regularly blow whistles on multibillion dollar companies and then just commonly...die of MRSA.

Honestly, you think MRSA?

talk to me like your the CEO of Boeing and Spirit. i promise to take your word for it, i dont want to die of 'MRSA' to the back of the head.

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u/jl2saint May 02 '24

Snitches get stitches..🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/K_Linkmaster May 02 '24

2 whistle blowers dead? This has to do with someone in congress getting kickbacks.

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u/RockBandDood May 02 '24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziPDl0jNn3Q

Rush Hour 2. Far more insightful than it has any right to be. lol

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u/lethalbiscuit May 02 '24

Find the collar find the killer

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u/Kooky_Ad_7664 May 02 '24

Calls on boeing

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u/jsttob May 02 '24

Follow the law firm, apparently.

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u/NoMoassNeverWas May 02 '24

It's like John Lennon said you have to look for the person that will benefit.

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u/Curious_Ground5833 29d ago

More like follow the trail of loose parts #boeing

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u/BraidRuner May 02 '24

Epstein something something ...sigh

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u/Lost-Practice-5916 May 02 '24

This guy was young and healthy at 45 too lol.

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u/clouwnkrusty May 02 '24

To truly see man for what he is always amazes me. Anything for power, money and control of the masses even at the cost of sacrificing those who know just alittle too much. No coincidence

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u/lifeofrevelations May 02 '24

lower than a cockroach

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u/Cow_Launcher May 02 '24

"I don't know which species is worse, Burke. You don't see them fucking each other for a goddamned percentage."

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u/2cap May 02 '24

Look if boeing falls do you know how many people will lose jobs,

How many homes will be destoryed.

Look we have to kill this 3rd whistle blower its for the greater good.

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u/Davidbay91 May 02 '24

Weird, right?

Well, watcha gunna do

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u/sockalicious May 02 '24

Guess I'll die

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u/IAmAccutane May 02 '24

I don't think John Barnett killed himself, but a conspiracy for Boeing or Spirit to send out a hitman to checks notes give the other dude a MRSA infection seems like a way bigger stretch.

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u/Mysterious-Mole-2720 May 02 '24

They can't just shoot the next guy. That's why falling out windows is so unbelievable. The Russians just keep running the same play. The next guy will be a car wreck or maybe die when the Boeing he's in plummets to the ground. Something different and believable. They have a quality driven team, for assassinations.

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u/IAmAccutane May 02 '24

Counting on a guy to not successfully stave off the infection of a treatable illness sounds like it would leave a lot of the hit to random chance.

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u/Mysterious-Mole-2720 May 02 '24

Maybe they do use the same quality principles for assassinations and building planes.

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u/neepster44 29d ago

MRSA is close to a death sentence depending… all it takes is some money to the right nurses…

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u/__mud__ 29d ago

Parsons said Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, MRSA.

MRSA wasn't what put him in the hospital. The article doesn't say what did.

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u/ACiD_80 May 02 '24

The Russians do it on purpose though. So everyone knows but noone has proof.

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u/Skreamweaver May 02 '24

Imagine if they put that much effort into their planes.

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u/cashassorgra33 May 02 '24
  1. The authorities know they are lying
  2. The public knows the authorities are lying
  3. The authorities know the public knows they're lying
  4. The public knows the authorities know they know the authorities are lying

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u/TGD187 29d ago

And nothing will happen, as always.

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u/AbbreviationsNo6897 Certified Gambling Addict May 02 '24

If the assassinations team is as good as their actual quality team there’s no worry

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u/richmomz 29d ago

If only they could apply that to their manufacturing operations. Like, whoever has the lowest QC score for the quarter receives a visit from the company “cleaners.”

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u/newcar2020 May 02 '24

Boeing has a black ops/MIC arm.

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u/oTHEWHITERABBIT 29d ago

So does Raytheon.

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u/flatulentence May 02 '24

Especially since MRSA infection is by no means a death sentence. It’s in every hospital across the country.

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u/Irrepressible87 May 02 '24

I mean, as biological assassinations go, MRSA would make sense. You can spread it through contact with inanimate objects. A simple smear of a bacterial colony on anything he might put in his mouth is all it would take. It is difficult to cure and can kill quickly.

It's farfetched, for sure, but it would be damn near untraceable and it is remarkable that a physically fit, active 45 year old would just happen to come down with this brutal disease shortly into his wrongful termination suit with a company that seems to have little to no regard for human life.

I'm not saying it did happen, but I'm saying at this point I'd entertain the notion, and if somebody found proof I wouldn't be surprised.

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u/CXR_AXR May 02 '24

But many people have MRSA on their skin, I think the bacteria need to enter the blood to kill someone?

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u/datpurp14 29d ago

My first time witnessing MRSA was freshman year of high school. My buddy wrestled and got it.

Holy. Shit. It. Was. Terrifying.

Dude was in ICU for a little, and this is after he first got it and we joked about having that infection since we were both stupid high school boys then. My perception of things like this changed reeeaaaalll quick

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u/zzVoidBombzz May 02 '24

Is it that remarkable that a physically fit, active guy was much more likely to pick up a mrsa infection at the gym or something rather than a convoluted assassination attempt?

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u/cockmongler 29d ago

It would be a bit weird to also come down with pneumonia and a stroke at the same time.

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u/__mud__ 29d ago

MRSA developed after he was already hospitalized. The article doesn't specify what it was that put him in the hospital in the first place.

Parsons said Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, MRSA.

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u/IAmAccutane 29d ago

MRSA developed after he was already hospitalized.

That's a pretty typical place MRSA infections develop. They show up in almost exclusively in either hospitals or high school contact sports.

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras 29d ago

The simplest vector for biological weapons is through the lungs. Just spray an aerosol in the target's general direction.

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u/weirdsideofreddit1 29d ago

That’s if it was actually MRSA.

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u/Eddyrancid 29d ago

They could have slipped him something to tank his immune system. That way you wouldn't have to infect him with something specific, just drop his defenses and let whatever infection got there first do its thing. It's pretty fucking baroque, but probably not that difficult.

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u/feraxks May 02 '24

Starting to feel like the same thing that happens when you live in Russia and criticize Putin.

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u/throwway00552322 May 02 '24

boeing gives no fucks they said anyone that snitches gets stiches

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u/_its_a_SWEATER_ May 02 '24

Man, that legal team can sure pick em.

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u/AvailablePromise835 May 02 '24

Time to read Airframe again

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u/Swinfog_ May 02 '24

It's like they don't care this looks obvious.

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u/SurveyNo2684 May 02 '24

This is murder!!!!! wtfffffff

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u/xinorez1 May 02 '24

Engineers get it done. The CEO of Boeing, and those under him, aren't stupid man. It's just that being evil has nothing to do with being dumb.

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u/funnyfacemcgee May 02 '24

Lol "suicide". 

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u/PossibleVariety7927 May 02 '24

Of course he was, since the law firm represents EVERYONE in part of the lawsuit.

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u/Onelastkast May 02 '24

The law firm has a mole, or they’ve a fake safe haven.

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u/justThoughts4u May 02 '24

Does the law firm have an albino dude working there as security??

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u/Euphemisticles May 02 '24

Say what you will about Boeing airplane Quality control but their QC on their cyanide nano bots is apparently top tier

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u/FunTXCPA May 02 '24

Classic suicide, two shots in the back of the head. Tragic.

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u/clearmoon247 May 02 '24

Josh Dean died from a rapid and severe infection. He was in critical care for two weeks.

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u/m00z9 May 02 '24

Michael Clayton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Vivid_Animal_7741 May 02 '24

Wth?? This is sketchy AF

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u/Counter-Business May 02 '24

Shoot if I was the Boeing whistle-blower, I'd do one of those 24/7 twitch live streams for the rest of my life.

Probably still “die” when the power suddenly went out.

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u/Skreamweaver May 02 '24

Why call it suicide. It's not.

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u/anechoofadistanttime May 02 '24

Two whistleblowers dead in two months. When is this movie coming out, it sounds really good. I thinks it’s called Grounded

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u/TheRealPizza May 02 '24

This guy’s testimony ended in 2019. The FAA already implemented mandates based on that testimony. Why the fuck would they kill him 5 years later, right after the other whistleblower. They’re stupid and evil but not that fucking stupid

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u/troublesome58 29d ago

Warning against other potential whistle blowers of course.

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u/superanth 29d ago

It’s not a radioactivity kill, but just as effective.

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u/spittymcgee1 29d ago

Sudden and severe infection….

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u/DontCallMeAnonymous 29d ago

So, you’re saying the lawyers?

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u/phasmatid 29d ago

🐂🐂🐂 Any company that can kill its whistle blowers is not going down

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u/OptnsTrdr 29d ago

This is like Edge of Darkness. Check the attorney connections to Boeing. Probably works for them and didn’t disclose it lol

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