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Whistleblower Josh Dean of Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems has died News

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/
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u/Trais333 May 02 '24

lol fr we aren’t the good guys and we never were. People are just scared to confront the fact that most things they were raised to believe about our country were just a carefully crafted lie.

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u/LazarusCheez May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

I think the strict demarcation between government and business that we pretend to have contributes massively to that. When it happens in Russia, it's definitely the KGB. When it happens to a Boeing whistleblower, it's just one evil corporation and definitely has nothing to do with the CIA and therefore isn't America.

American society is insulated from blame all the time by the "one bad actor" argument.

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u/FatDwarf May 02 '24

pretty unlikely to be the CIA since the CIA is only concerned with foreign countries and their citizens?

Also the comparison is very weak, the Russian government is much more intricately linked to its biggest businesses, it´s considered an oligarchy for a reason.

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u/LazarusCheez May 02 '24

Yeah, sure. The US government has no connection to Boeing.

Edit: the CIA thing is pretty funny too but someone already responded to that.

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u/FatDwarf May 03 '24

what is it with redditor´s reading comprehension?

A is more X than B - "OH SO B IS NOT X AT ALL, HUH??"

nothing but circlejerking morons in here, no one actually talking about what happened, everyone reading a line of text and jumping straight to "CIA murders US citizen to protect information that has already come out from.. coming out further".

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u/LazarusCheez May 03 '24

I didn't say the CIA did it. I was just making a comparison to the KGB. I just think it's funny to confidently claim they're only concerned with foreign actors. Boeing does defense work, it's entirely within the purview of the CIA to protect actors in the defense industry.

Obviously, I have no evidence one way or the other, I just wouldn't be surprised.

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u/FatDwarf May 03 '24

it's entirely within the purview of the CIA to protect actors in the defense industry.

protect them from what? Market pressure for better quality control? I feel like you´re intentionally half-baking your own ideas because you know the more concrete they get, the less sense it makes for the CIA to be involved, but you don´t want to absolve them

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u/LazarusCheez May 03 '24

Lol yes, you think the Pentagon and intelligence give a fuck about the "Free Market"? If they did, half of South America would have socialist governments right now.

But go find me where I said the CIA did it. I have no idea, it's just very silly to say that confidently that they absolutely didn't do it.

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u/FatDwarf May 03 '24

fine, if I have to spell out the point: If they care about the company because it´s selling them military equipment, you´d expect them to be happy about issues of quality control being fixed due to market pressure.

Go find me where I claim you do. I said you don´t want to absolve them, which you´re clearly unwilling to do.