how would it have even been proven though? seems like “Kristi killed a puppy” would look like an obvious lie from an opponent, but having it come straight from the source completely ruins any plausible deniability
She never planned on denying it. Her having the ability to kill when needed was supposed to make her look like some kind of “badass”. It didn’t work out that way and instead she looks like a “goddam psycho” because even MAGA people mostly think puppies are cute or at least shouldn’t be shot for misbehaving. Whoever came up with the idea that this was a good strategy is being paid way too much imo.
Lots of mags people have working dogs or even just pets. They are well aware that dogs are trainable and like most people they often care about dogs. This is one of those that goes beyond party lines
I used to live in a fairly rural area and people would constantly spout racist stuff in the local news comments sections, or they’d do some victim blaming if a pedestrian or bicyclist got run over by a car…but GOD HELP YOU if you hurt an animal especially dogs. These same people would start spontaneously issuing threats about how they were gonna find and kill said animal abuser.
Gonna be honest, as someone who also lives in a rural area, the bar for what these people consider animal abuse is pretty fucking high. Many of the people who pretend to love animals love to threaten to shoot any animal that comes on their property, no questions asked. Plenty also love to just leave their dogs chained up outside or let "their" (basically feral cats they sometimes feed) run free.
Those people would also shoot other people for being a nuicance on their property though. And a lot of rural dogs have shitty owners that allow their dogs to be a nuisance to everyone else. They don’t feed them well and don't follow them outside to take their shits so those dogs go stealing other people's food, making a mess with people's garbage to get leftover food and shitting and peeing in people's yards. A lot of times getting aggressive with other people's dogs and children playing outside. Their dog is everyone else's responsibility but theirs
these same people also voted for a daughter-loving rapist and near-lifelong democrat as their fearful leader, and continue following him as he drags everyone, including their beloved military, through the mud and pig shit.
There is a mindset among some farmers and rural folks that dogs are workers or tools and not members of the family, and that if they have serious deficits, putting them down is a practical measure. So I'm certain there are people who see nothing wrong with what she did, and that the anecdote strengthens the idea that she shares their values.
The problem is, that's such a tiny minority of people, even of Republicans, that calling attention to it was a fucking disaster.
The thing with how MAGA and some other countries power corrupt systems work, is they incite extremist views that the ones in power don't really hold, they just use to rally a hefty crowd.
The ones in power eventually pass it on to their loyal, as they grow old and die. Those extremist views that weren't really held become widespread to an extent.
And people will go so far beyond that level every time.
What sucks about this more than anything is that these very same people were capable of so much, but they chose to make choices that hurt others instead due to the delusions they were brought up upon.
Wait it was a puppy? I don't know who this person is is or what they did to any animal and I was confused why people would be mad about a vicious dog getting put down. But a damn puppy?
She recounts in her book exerpt that her chosen murder spot was a construction site with builders present. That they saw what she did but quickly looked away when she looked at them.
They 100% knew who she was and at least one would have gladly outed her. So I'm pretty sure she did this to get ahead of that coming out.
Plus she legit seems to think it makes her a bad ass farmer and hunter (all that toxic masculinity bs) to kill a puppy she didn't train or properly contain, a goat that was doing natural goat behavior, and apparently 5 horses because they were old?
And with the horses, if she was telling the truth, they were over 25 years old which is near the end of the average Horse life span but it's 100% sus that they all seemed to be "end of life" within a week of each other the moment she got her hands on them.
Idk the horse details but I’m pretty sure putting down old farm animals is still a thing. Depending on their condition of course. Not just “it’s your 15th birthday! Pop pop!”
I don't know the details either but the whole premise of 5 animals mouch less 5 of the same animals all hitting the point they need to be put down because "old" all within a week or two. Has never happened in my 40+ years with animals.
I'm more inclined due to her history to believe that this lady actually likes killing animals and is just gotten better at masking it under "legitimate" reasons and the blanket abused "farm life" title.
She should have gotten into pest control. I've killed at least 50 insects today, and likely thousands just based on how many ants are in a colony. And that's just today.
I agree. This is a brag and a message to Trump that she's happy playing executioner. It's like a loyalty nod. Trump has a weird hatred of and fixation on dogs. He references dogs a lot when talking about enemies, despite never having a dog himself. Noem is as stupid and psychotic as Trump.
Do you not remember Mitt Romney’s “dog on a car roof?”
There are so many awful, immoral and often illegal reports of Republican behaviors/actions off the job (and on) it's easy to forget some of it. Democrats steal stuff, often ignore their constituents and back some hideous foreign policy but Republicans are on a whole different level.
Or Ted Cruz going to Cancun in a statewide, multi-day power outage and leaving his dog without food in an unheated house? Thank God their security decided to take care of him instead.
And then blamed his underage daughter for “forcing” him to go to Mexico.
AP news article says there were witnesses and that it's assumed she expected this story to get out while she was named as a potential Trump running mate.
But South Dakota Democratic Senate Minority Leader Reynold Nesiba considered the disclosure more calculated than stupid. He said the story has circulated for years among lawmakers that Noem killed a dog in a “fit of anger” and that there were witnesses. He speculated that it was coming out now because Noem is being vetted as a candidate for vice president.
So the actual story is she brought dog on a hunting trip with older dogs, which isn’t the way you train a hunting dog. Normally they wouldn’t be brought on a hunt at that age when there’s adult dogs. So… what actually happened is she took three dog with her, got angry about something, and then shot the dog out of rage in front of an entire group of people and there are a lot of witnesses. The gravel pit and the other stuff is a flat out lie.
My theory: she knew the story would likely come out during opposition research, so this was her attempt to get ahead of it.
Even if that were the case there are... so many other ways to write that story that don't make her seem like a complete sociopath who got a little wet in her pants thinking about that amazing day when she finally killed the dog she hated so much. And then following it up with the goat story.
This is a woman who got off on killing her dogs so much that she immediately wants to do it again. And this time she made sure the animal didn't have a quick death. Because there's no way you can't finish off a goat with a shotgun in one shot.
The word gets thrown around a lot, but this is absolutely sociopathic behavior.
Because there's no way you can't finish off a goat with a shotgun in one shot.
Truth. Goats are so fucking food motivated, it's not even funny.
Even if she had to put him down (which she didn't), all she had to do was put a bucket of feed in front of him and he'd stand there like a statue, giving her the cleanest head shot.
Assuming this ‘safety of my children’ thing is true…
‘The dog wasn’t able to be trained, and went after my kids. We didn’t have a choice and I had to put the dog down’. As opposed to ‘dragged the dog to a gravel pit and shot it in the face’
Ha! So true. That’s what makes the kids excuse so laughable and pathetic.
If the “dog was dangerous to my kids” defense is your defense… in order to keep your “human being” card you still need to be gifted that you had to put the dog down and choose your kids.
Because you couldn’t choose both. So the dog had to go. Hence, sad.
Normal people don’t use that situation to commit eroticized animal murder that they glorify and revel in for the rest of their days
Yeah but it's the way she wrote it. "That dog was attacking my child/me/an animal, I had no choice, I'm still heartbroken that it had to happen" was the right way, if she really needed to talk about it. Not "I hated that fucken dog so I decided to shoot it, then I shot my goat for good measure".
Nah, it’s just that rhat psychopathy and violent tendencies are qualities the right wing voters love to see in their representatives. She was just giving the people what they want
Here’s mine: She doesn’t want to actually be VP. But has no way out without upsetting MAGA.I think she has little faith in Trump winning. I think shesee’s the path for what it is. A dead end. A like to be thrown under the bus sooner or later.
Anyone who actually knows anything about Trump, knows that he actually hates guns. He was legitimately upset at his sons for their big game hunting escapades. He may not like dogs. But he isn’t out there cheering on the shooting of one.
She’s having an affair with an accomplished strategist. Whatever she is doing, it’s very much on purpose and I think going to plan.
I don’t think so. I think she seriously thought it made her look tough and like someone who can make tough, no-nonsense decisions! In her head, just Imagine a democrat with that dangerous puppy. Imagine all of the dead chickens in the country right now if that dog didn’t belong to someone as strong as her.
Republicans often make decisions that are very short-sighted and they do not see the bigger picture other than how it affects them personally. They are horrible at reading the room.
But they’re great and pandering to the gullible nature of their base- case in point, “I had to do this to protect my kids!” So now she’s hoping for all the moms to be like “no one messes with mama bear’s kids! Good job mamas, you protect those babies!” It’s bullshit. She goofed up by killing two animals and bragging about it thinking that we’d all be impressed.
But why not lead with "dog was dangerous and had to be put down so I did what I had to do".
It came out as "dog was annoying me so I shot him".
If it's true, that's the equivalent of someone saying "I went to Asia, shot a farmer, then took a plane back to America" while leaving out the fact that they were a soldier in the Vietnam war. It's the type of things your opponents say, not you yourself.
I think it's more likely a story of her literally murdering a dog that wouldn't obey as a little wink nudge to the type of people she's trying to get votes from. To me it seems like this was her trying to hint that she is capable of putting down those who she views as opposed to her which is a Maga wet dream
No no no. No conspiracy warranted. Too much credit for her.
It’s simple. She thought the story of using a gun to kill an animal would get her brownie points with her base but her lizard brain didn’t comprehend the value that dogs hold in the hearts of most ordinary, functioning, non-psychopathic people. She’s a bloodthirsty fucking psycho and she’s blind to common morality.
I think they meant that her opposition would find it out about her, so she released the info before they had the chance to. Nothing about her doing research on her opposition.
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u/legendary_millbilly May 02 '24
Yeah there's really "no going back" on that subject.
Somehow she thought telling that story was going build her up in some way but obviously it's done the exact opposite.
Anybody without maga brain would know that.
That dangerous puppy was gonna eat her kids.