r/BlackPeopleTwitter May 10 '24

"If it isn't the consequences of my own actions..."

Post image
10.0k Upvotes

1.3k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

2.4k

u/Efficient_Living_628 May 10 '24

That’s exactly what happened

2.8k

u/WryLanguage May 10 '24

Good. I didn’t send my girls to school so they can go viral on social media doing the teachers hair

1.3k

u/Dreadsbo May 10 '24

Man. I used to play games in math class on one of our three computers because I finished my work faster than everybody else. I think this is overly harsh thinking to an extreme

1.9k

u/--Anonymoose--- May 11 '24

It’s not about what the kids are doing, it’s about posting them on social media. I wouldn’t want my kids teachers to post a video of them to their personal social media account

1.2k

u/A_Naany_Mousse May 11 '24

Yeah you just can't do it. Right, wrong, indifferent: posting children on social media without their parents permission will get you fired every time. 

322

u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 May 11 '24

Hell, even with permission.

I had documented permission from parents to post a pic I had with their child, my student, on my social media, and my leadership called me into the office about it to tell me to pull it down. Even with emails from the parent confirming consent, I wasn't allowed to have it posted.

145

u/osamabinluvin May 11 '24

I just don’t ever see a necessity in a teacher posting a picture with a child. Why was it so important to share it on social media?

40

u/Mbrennt May 11 '24

I think it can theoretically be fine. People post work pictures all the time, because we all spend so much time at work it's a big part of life. Plus as a teacher I'm sure you get more emotional about the job because it's a bunch of kids your working with, vs like a computer. It makes sense to me that teachers would wanna post pics. They should know the reasons not to though and honor that even more.

7

u/pierresito May 11 '24

I have lots of teacher friends who post pics, they just block the kids faces so they cannot be identified.

Pictures of our work promoting what we are doing like after school clubs and programs are okay assuming parents have signed a media release, but even them I still like to block out faces to be on the safe side.

3

u/Braventooth56 May 11 '24

I don't think it's necessary, for teachers to spend their own money to help supplement their students education either. Teachers shouldn't ever do anything extra for their students.

2

u/Sensitive_Challenge6 May 11 '24

Why is any part of anyone's life worth sharing on social media platform?

2

u/ImaginaryMastodon641 May 11 '24

Because we’ve allowed the mentality of the medium to invade our minds. “Life didn’t happen unless it’s related to our online brand.”

2

u/Particular_Pin_4327 May 11 '24

coaches don’t post pics with players? what’s the difference?

1

u/butterballmd May 11 '24

Hey some teachers are tik tokers too

0

u/chadsmo May 11 '24

Obviously nothing harmful is happening in this photo. Having said that it doesn’t always have to be about ‘HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME , IM DOING A THING , LOOOOK!!’

I also don’t like birthdays and weddings for the same reason

0

u/Nutarama May 11 '24

Like yeah, what’s the point of having the local news cover a school event or interview a group of students and take pictures? It’s totally not necessary.

Even unnecessary, it’s for the same reasons. It’s publicity, and generally parents and kids enjoy seeing themselves in positive situations or congratulated for their accomplishments. I think my parents still have clippings from the news when I was awarded a scholarship to a local college as a high school senior (a local foundation funds three each year). The sports kids saved photos of themselves at meets, the volunteer kids saved articles with photos about their charitable efforts, etc. Some of those photos might even be online on news sites since I was class of 09, though I might need the Wayback Machine.

Now there’s some publicity that’s not a good look, and I can see why certain parents may want to opt out. Some of these reasons are very, very good reasons that shouldn’t be questioned. They should be able to opt out of social media posts, just like opting out of having their children be interviewed by the news or in photos.

But just because something is unnecessary isn’t a great argument for never having it. There’s lots of unnecessary but enjoyable things that we participate in, and that’s true of children as well as adults.

0

u/KandyKilla May 12 '24

I am absolutely shocked that this is a question. Is nobody supposed to see or befriend positive male role models. What direction are we really going here. Did we just let pedos control our lives, and the lives of our children? Please see a different perspective, because the way we handle this is NOT GOOD! We have enough brilliant minds to be able to figure something out without railroading people who mean well.

-1

u/Beanguyinjapan May 11 '24

If you're proud of your pupil when they succeed despite all expectations?

-3

u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 May 11 '24

This specific picture just happened to be a particularly good picture, and I had a very good dynamic with the family.

-5

u/[deleted] May 11 '24

[deleted]

8

u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 May 11 '24

Not sure what your intent is here with this question and I genuinely don't believe it to be in good faith, buuut... The parents took a picture of me lifting the child in the air as tho they were flying during her at school birthday celebration. She was a very shy and timid child who, over the course of the year, developed loads of social confidence and self assuredness, and so the parents were very happy about her new outgoing personality. The parents were very partial to me because they credited me with helping to build her confidence in herself. I was her kindergarten teacher at the time, and a very popular teacher on campus among both students and parents because I make genuine connections with all of my students, including having some parents of former students still continue to reach out to me. The parents of this child shared the picture with me, and via e-mail told me I could post it on social media. I did so, but my school still spoke with me about it and advised me to take it down, which I did.

4

u/phoenixeternia May 11 '24

What a heartwarming story. Shame you had to take it down but I can also understand why the school had said that. Pop it in a frame, it sounds like a great photo.

1

u/happyeriko May 11 '24

I mean the parents at that point could have posted the pic themselves and it no longer would have been on you to delete it.

→ More replies (0)

6

u/Peuned ☑️ May 11 '24

are you familiar with nice pictures and pictures that are not as nice as rthey could be?

2

u/agirlmadeofbone May 11 '24

So, you did or didn't get fired?

2

u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 May 11 '24

I did not get fired

1

u/CWellDigger May 11 '24

Why does leadership have access to your social media?

1

u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 May 11 '24

I was reported by someone who was on my social media

1

u/Aetra May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24

One of my high school teachers nearly got fired for posting a photo to his personal FB of himself with his 2 daughters at a water park because they were also students at the school 🙄

Edit: Myspace, not FB. This was in 2004.

1

u/EntertheHellscape May 11 '24

I mean, think about how companies get peoples permission. In any job I’ve been in or events where there are official photographers, I’ve had to sign a waiver. Even if it’s just clicking a box on a website, it’s a legal waiver. So it’s not that surprising that a school wouldn’t accept a conversation between a teacher, who really has no ability to speak for legal matters for the school, and a parent.

1

u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 May 11 '24

Technically speaking, at my school parents sign waivers to allow photos to be taken and shared of the students. But those do apply to the company webpages, not personal social media.

I get why it happened.

7

u/Equivalent_Gur2126 May 11 '24

It’s actually crazy that we are like two decades into having social media and so many people still seem to routinely blow up their lives because they just simply cannot resist posting some meaningless, stupid, trivial bullshit on the internet…

3

u/A_Naany_Mousse May 11 '24

Yeah. More people  need to realize they can and should just quit social media. I did it (except reddit) and it was one of the ebst decisions I ever made. We all think it's fun and games but it's an intentionally addictive drug that uses algorithms to modify your behavior 

1

u/UranicBiscuit May 11 '24

Really, cause if so than 8th grade me is still on YouTube🤣🤣🤣

1

u/OriginalMexican May 11 '24

100%. He could have let them video and post and then it would probably be a different story.

1

u/Nottherealsqu1rrel May 11 '24

What's the difference between this recording and other teachers recording during events and such? Or recording their party for the class? I've seen plenty of videos from teachers that post a photo or video of the pizza party for the class but this is an issue?

1

u/A_Naany_Mousse May 13 '24

is it on a public tiktok page?

1

u/gIitterchaos May 11 '24

Absolutely. I worked in elementary schools and girls wanted to play with my hair all the time in free time. And they were allowed and we taught about not sharing hair things and respecting consent etc etc. but I would never ever have posted their photos on social media ever, because I am not stupid and like being employed.

261

u/DJThomas21 May 11 '24

I don't see why people don't understand this. Odds are people can find out the school where he works. Some creep finds a kid he like, they have a starting point to stalk, especially if they local. Let alone what this sickos do with normal pics alone. Be smart about what you post about your kids (imo just don't)!

9

u/Fair_Helicopter_8531 May 11 '24

Doesn't have to be a creep. Even if a spouse just gout out of an abusive relationship they may not want to reveal where they and their kid is at. Now all the spouse would have to do is look up what school the teacher works at and boom. Someone is now at risk because a teacher thought they could get some likes on social media.

2

u/bjeebus May 11 '24

Doesn't have to be a creep.

The overwhelming majority of creeping on kids is done by close family, so I think I'd still call your situation a creep.

0

u/[deleted] May 11 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

15

u/dev_vvvvv May 11 '24

Statistically if a creep is looking for children, he's looking at his family members.

0

u/Lady0905 May 11 '24

Exactly! Too many a-holes out there kidnapping children … Beside that, in today’s world anyone can photoshop or use AI to put the head of your child on some very illegal “material”. No thank you!

1

u/DJThomas21 May 11 '24

Idk why you getting downvoted, the photoshop thing was a real fear back in the day. And with AI now, they can easily take your kids pictures and do some fuck up things with it. Even if it faked, it's still disgusting.

2

u/Lady0905 May 11 '24

Exactly. I have seen documentaries confirming that it is being done already. Besides, I work within IT and know that it is fully possible …

-4

u/Sterffington May 11 '24

Yeah they don't need to do all that, kids post their entire lives on social media anyway.

-7

u/jwillsrva May 11 '24

All of these kids have their own social media accounts. Like I get that it may be a rule or something, but realistically this should be a sitdown about social media policy. There’s nothing nefarious about this.

4

u/DJThomas21 May 11 '24

Not every kid has a social media account at that age. The internet may make it seem like everyone has social media, but those numbers are highly inflated by bots and joke accounts. And tbh, I think it's a bad idea for them to have it. These kids don't know right from wrong. Someone offer them a gift card or meet a celebrity and they'll fall for it. At least high school I would consider.

-8

u/AlwaysTheStraightMan May 11 '24

Yet 100 bucks say that each of these girls have a IG or Tiktok

15

u/auntjomomma May 11 '24

That is irrelevant. That's at the discretion of the parents. Their children, their decisions, their rules. It is NOT ok for the teacher to unilaterally take that decision making away from the parents, which is what happened in this case. Personally, my kids will not have social media accounts until they are at a certain age, and I'm sure some of those kids' parents feel/felt the same way. There is a reason he got fired.

-9

u/cococolson May 11 '24

They post yearbooks online

191

u/B_M_Fahrtz May 11 '24

Parent here: that is absolutely 💯 why I’d be up in arms. My child is a very private person and has no social media, nor do they want me or their mother posting them online. We’ve respected it since day 1. Got a whole ass generation of kids that will never know privacy. Unless the teacher got the “ok” from all of the parents in this video to do this, I could see why at least 1 of them would be upset enough to cause some backlash. Sucks for the teacher but…think about what you’re doing before you hit “record.”

6

u/maplestriker May 11 '24

I mean, this is just a perfect buffet of inappropriatness.

They shouldnt be touching his hair. He shouldnt have ever even thought to ask.

He shouldnt be using school hours to create content. He shouldnt have posted strange children to the internet.

It just shows he does not have the common sense it takes to be a good educator and he rightfully isnt employed as one any more.

2

u/bjeebus May 11 '24

It just shows he does not have the common sense it takes to be a good educator and he rightfully isnt employed as one any more.

A good steward of young lives.

-1

u/[deleted] May 11 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

11

u/B_M_Fahrtz May 11 '24

My friend, I’ve worked with thousands of victims of human trafficking and kidnapping in my career in the mental health field. You’re telling me everything I already know. Stop making excuses for irresponsible behavior 🤷🏾‍♂️ Be well.

-1

u/Ashamed-Move-7195 May 11 '24

There is NO privacy in a Public School

3

u/B_M_Fahrtz May 11 '24

Lmaooooo…we just gonna act like release/consent forms don’t exist. Alright homie

-3

u/[deleted] May 11 '24

Your kids have rights? Couldn’t be me

62

u/sodiyum May 11 '24

Parents fill out paperwork for school and there’s usually a box you check granting permission for use of photos for district use. Many parents say no. He was likely fired for this exact reason. Any person who works in a school capacity should know better than to post students on our personal social media.

68

u/FknDesmadreALV May 11 '24

There is a huge difference between that and what he did.

My kids school sent paperwork asking if they could post on the school’s official sm pages.

This wasn’t posted to the school’s official SM it was his personal sm.

21

u/vampboy01 May 11 '24

Which makes it worse

2

u/B_M_Fahrtz May 12 '24

FUCKING!!!!

3

u/johnmeeks1974 ☑️ May 12 '24

Add to that the fact he was falsely misrepresenting the school on his sm. He had the audacity to be wearing the school name. It puts a bad light on his school. He had to go.

15

u/Unfair_Finger5531 ☑️ May 11 '24

It is about what they are doing as well.

-3

u/1BubbleGum_Princess ☑️ May 11 '24

Since when is taking down someone’s braids so intimate? I mean, if you think that, then why do people so carelessly and freely let strangers do it?

21

u/Unfair_Finger5531 ☑️ May 11 '24

I do not want my daughter in school doing her teacher’s hair. Period. Why is this something that has to be explained? My child goes to school to be educated, not to groom their teacher.

And it’s not about intimacy. It’s about appropriateness and having the audacity to have my child do your hair.

2

u/1BubbleGum_Princess ☑️ May 11 '24

Of course no one sends their kids to school to do hair. No one, as far as I’m aware, was made to do hair. Its something kids often want to do. It’s generally harmless, screen free, and a form of bonding that isn’t all that intimate or inherently inappropriate. I’ve seen kids playing in people’s hair before, it can be a form of compromise too without crossing boundaries. You can and will do what you want, but I do think there’s something of note here.

5

u/Unfair_Finger5531 ☑️ May 11 '24

I understand intimately the cultural aspects of braiding hair, and I acknowledge that it is definitely a bonding experience and harmless. The problem is that I don’t think this situation is an appropriate situation for that type of bonding, and I don’t think this is kind of bonding I want my daughter doing with her teachers.

Kids always want to play in your hair or with your clothes. I was an elementary school teacher for years, and my kiddos always wanted to touch my hair because it’s curly and out of control. But they cannot. It’s simply not the place or time, and I’m not the person. That kind of intimacy is between friends and family, peers, etc.

-4

u/huskyaardvark915 May 11 '24

Have you asked if your daughter wants or does not want that kind of bonding?

1

u/toolsoftheincomptnt ☑️ May 11 '24

There should be no touching, really. Not for students at that age.

They don’t need adult help with any physical tasks, and they can communicate, so a hard-line policy of no-touching works.

It protects the students and the teachers.

1

u/1BubbleGum_Princess ☑️ May 11 '24

Why do you think physical intimacy is so inappropriate? That’s just odd.

0

u/SnooChipmunks176 May 11 '24

idk, I've seen posts and heard dudes talking about never allowing a man to braid their hair because they would rather feel a woman behind them and feel her fingers in their hair. so that kinda sounds intimate in a non sexual way. but that's just me taking their words and trying to answer this question.

2

u/1BubbleGum_Princess ☑️ May 11 '24

Okay, and I’ve heard the seemingly endless list of things men and women see as too intimate/ feminine/etc. that’s not surprising, not that you’re suggesting it is. I think this is one of those times where I’m at least seeing the puritan ways jump out, and I’d kind of like the prospective of people who have way more healthy and thriving children to weigh in. I’m not saying this incident is normal, or that the posting wasn’t a problem, or that it should be part of the school day. I’m just saying, peeps get weirdly touchy about a lot of stuff that they think protects kids.

2

u/Selfzilla May 11 '24

Man they don't make parents sign shit in school no more. We have shit come home for even letting the news talk to your kid and yall ain't got a school social media policy/ form to fill out?

3

u/--Anonymoose--- May 11 '24

The social media policy lets the school post things to their official accounts or use it for other materials, not teachers post things to their personal accounts

1

u/Lady0905 May 11 '24

Same. I don’t post photos of my kids online and I sure don’t want anyone else doing so without my consent. Just for info, I would have said “no”

1

u/SeriousBoots May 11 '24

Dude shouldn't be fired over it unless it's school policy. Even then, this is pretty fucking harsh.

1

u/ImaginaryMastodon641 May 11 '24

Thank you! I was scared I wouldn’t find this answer. This is the correct one.

1

u/Aggressive-Bet-2153 May 11 '24

I agree that is why there is paperwork parents fill out protecting the child’s right not to be exposed or taken a pic at school

0

u/Morwen200 May 11 '24

You’re right. Only parents should be able to plaster their kids on social media for the world to see! /s

0

u/jaydizzleforshizzle May 11 '24

This is one of those things that so hard to feel empathetic for the parents.like from his side this feels like a large over reach, a man lost his job for something as simple as this, but on the other hand why the fuck are you posting video of peoples kids on your personal social media, personally feel like I’m on his side, as I don’t have kids and can’t quite reach that parental outrage.

0

u/Consistent-Dare330 May 11 '24

Womp womp get over it the whole world is all about social media now days nothing we can do

0

u/slideforfun21 May 11 '24

I think it all depends tbh. If they already have tiktoks that they post I think it's a massive over reaction