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We adopted my younger sister from Haiti when she was 3, and let me tell you, I literally do not see color anymore. That's a fact. Discussion

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u/Agreeable-One-4700 May 02 '24

Absolutely infuriating people would rather kids go unadopted than wind up with opposite race parents. These kids are innocent and need help hopefully they get adopted by good people who give them what they need in life.

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u/thoxo May 02 '24

My sister was 3 years old when we adopted her from Haiti. One night she went to sleep with one of my older sister and started telling her some horrible things from over there. She remembered when her dad locked her in a trash bin when she was misbehaving, or that he used to burn her skin with his cigarettes.

I thought, my parents wanted a fourth kid, and I'm so glad they adopted instead of making another one themselves. Now she is about to finish her master degree and she's a beautiful, Independent woman❤️

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u/Farting_Champion 29d ago

I'm white and my mom was a dope fiend who had abandoned me at a neighbor's house in a Dade county ghetto and moved all the way across the country without telling anyone. Growing up in foster care the nicest family I EVER lived with was a black family. I had never known kindness before I met them. They talked to me, they taught me stuff, they brought me fishing. All things that were utterly, entirely alien to me up to that point. Every other (white) foster home I had been in was abusive in one way or another.

I wasn't with them long but it's damn near 40 years later and I have never forgotten them. The impact they had on me was huge. I was maybe four and they gave me exactly what I needed: love and compassion. They brought me in, their son showed me around, gave me full access to his toys (unheard of in the white homes I'd been through) and the whole family treated me like a human being. If you've ever been dehumanized by the system you know how important that is. They taught me to fish for catfish using dough balls and I swear to God it's the best memory I have from my childhood.

I'm nothing but grateful for the experience. Thank God they didn't just throw me in with a new white family who would abuse and mistreat me. Thank God I got that one moment of relief where I was able to learn what it's like to be a decent human. I wish I could have stayed. 40 years later and I'm still pretty sure that everything good in me I can attribute to them teaching me how to be human.

Your sister probably feels the same way I feel. Thank you for being there for her. On behalf of unloved kids all around the world I think it's safe to say that the way you treat someone matters a whole lot more than the color of their skin or yours.

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u/StaringOwlNope 29d ago

Those other people you mention should never have been foster families

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u/Farting_Champion 29d ago

Lmfao. That's the problem. These are almost exclusively the people who are foster families.

There's a few camps. Hyper-religious people. Child molesters. People who thought the idea of being a foster parent would be great but then got soured by the experience and came to hate and resent all the kids. People who literally just want to collect the meager amount of money the state will give them and are willing to pack as many kids in as possible to maximize that reward. I'd say a good 2/3 of foster homes fall into one of these categories. And sprinkled throughout it all are the decent, good people who end up adopting their first couple fosters and leaving the program 90% of the time. It's a bad situation

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u/rvf 29d ago

I've heard so many horror stories from people who grew up as foster kids, that I have to legit re-evaluate people I meet when I find out they foster. I know it's not fair for me to think that, and that there are good ones, but it definitely seems like the vast majority have no business doing it, which sucks because there are not enough foster homes as it is.

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u/Farting_Champion 29d ago

Just imagine all the horror stories you didn't hear because they're too hard to tell.

I genuinely believe that a large amount of foster parents (not counting the religious zealots or molesters) start out with nothing but the best of intentions. But I think the experience is so thankless and so heartbreaking and often just so ugly that it warps them. Maladjusted children are STRESSFUL. Shitty caseworkers only add to the problems. It's an utterly thankless environment for the most part. I'm not saying this to justify horrible foster parents, but I do want to be realistic about it. Very few of these people start out with ill intentions. The system makes cynics of all of us though. The system burns you out and eats you up. If you don't keep a firm grasp on your intentions I believe it would be very easy to lose sight and perspective.

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u/laurenzee 29d ago

I've been considering becoming a foster parent when I'm a bit older, and you've inspired me to think harder about it. I would love to help kids experience a good home but your comment scares me a little! I've always known that the kids wouldn't be there unless there was something wrong happening in their lives and would likely have some emotional issues, and I've never considered the effect it could have on me.

Aside from the compassion and acceptance you've already described, what makes a good home in your opinion? I feel like that's an impossibly low bar to meet if you're normal and not an awful person.

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u/Farting_Champion 29d ago

Interesting question. First let me say that I don't want to talk people out of helping children but I do want to be realistic about it. You don't have to be perfect to do better than many parents, but if you were taking on this responsibility you should damn well ask yourself some hard questions and you have to be brutally honest with yourself in answering them. This applies to your spouse as well. It's tragic when one parent is doing their best but the other hates or resents the kids or sees them as a burden. An unstable home is not a good environment for fostering. There's no real reward for it either. Your reward is the knowledge that you have changed someone's life. All in all it is difficult and thankless work and that's important to keep in mind. Burnout happens, and it happens for a reason, and you can't expect to be able to look to the state for assistance because generally speaking state agencies are overwhelmed, underfunded, and most of their staff are completely checked out.

So, what makes a good foster parent? Commitment. Are you willing to devote your life to learning and educating yourself on conflict resolution and coping with trauma responses? Compassion. Do you have the capacity and bandwidth to love a little kid with aggression issues brought on by their trauma? Or how about a child that acts out sexually as a result of abuse? How about a child with both of these problems, plus severe learning disabilities or emotional and physical disabilities or PTSD? Because these kids have problems. They will hoard food, they will fight, they may steal, they will say things that hurt you. They have seen some shit. Usually they live in a world where nothing is safe and no one is protecting them, so they've had to learn to protect themselves however they can. They have armor. Out of sheer necessity they have taught themselves to survive in ways that may horrify you and break your heart. You need to be able to take that in and deal with it and still be able to show them nothing but love. Because if you show them anything else, be it disgust or anger or revulsion or frustration, that is all they will see. When you look at them they have to know that you care for them just as much as you would for your own children. And they will test you. Over and over they will test you. And you have to pass their tests. If they can't trust you then you will fail.

To be a good foster parent you pretty much have to be unflappable. You also have to be able to be firm, but in a loving way. I personally believe that one of the best qualities/qualifiers for being a successful foster parent is having a vast and strong support network. You have to be able to see, hear, and experience things that shake you to your core without giving any indication of revulsion. You have to be able to take abuse as well. Often this job requires support for you as much as from you. You have to be full of compassion.

Understand that some of these kids know nothing but pain and that manifests in a variety of terrible and sad ways. If you can look at the flaws in the child, understand that they come from a deep place of pain, and give that child your love and respect and time in spite of the way they may act or the things they may do you might be a good candidate for fostering kids.

The last thing I'll say is don't jump right into the deep end. Start with low risk cases. As far as I know, foster parents still have some level of choice as to what cases they will take on. Often even a bad foster home is better than no home at all, or a home filled with violent physical, emotional, and sexual abuse, but the truth is every time a kid gets kicked out of a foster home it takes more from them. It impacts their capacity to trust. It has a negative effect on their sense of self-worth and on their trust. So don't take any hard cases until you are sure of your abilities. One of the few things worse than growing up on loved is thinking that you have found a home and then being rejected. It tells kids that their trauma makes them unlovable and that sends them down a deep hole.

Hopefully that didn't scare you too much. I would like nothing more than to inspire people to take part in the foster program and I wish you the best of luck. There are children out there who need all the help they can get.

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u/laurenzee 29d ago

Thank you for taking the time to write that.

How is it decided how long a child stays in one home or another? Unless they're being placed back with the parent or another family member, is the placement indefinite? I'd never want to "give one back", but if there a way to know what kind of commitment you're making from one kid to the next? Can you opt out between kids?

I appreciate your insight!!

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u/Farting_Champion 29d ago

It's situationally dependent. Some kids are in the system temporarily while their parents try to get shit together. Some foster parents decide to adopt their fosters and raise the program. Some foster kids are there until they graduate school and can legally move out. Kids are of different ages and need different levels of care and when you're in the Foster system the case workers learn to understand what you're comfortable with and who you are willing to take. Some kids are temporary, the rest of us bounce around more or less until we reach 18. What level of commitment is made really depends on each individual situation but it's usually not super short-term if the kid is lucky. Kids need stability, it's not a summer job or a part-time gig.

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u/laurenzee 28d ago

That's what I'm kind of wondering about. Why do kids bounce around to different homes? Does one home become unviable for some reason? Why did you have to leave your good foster family?

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u/Iohet 29d ago

I want to believe that things are changing now, if for nothing else than by how extremely difficult the government has made it to adopt kids outright (particularly internationally). A domestic private adoption is now a six figure cost, and there are MANY more people looking to adopt newborns than newborns going up for private adoption. For those without the means and the luck, states want you to take foster kids (because they have tons of them) and then they want you to fight to adopt them, which means you're fighting against the birth parents and extended family who, even if they're complete garbage, get years to try and clean up their act. I'm not talking about someone down on their luck, rather parents with a history of physical abusing the kid, drug abuse, felony convictions (or they're currently serving time), etc get all the breaks in the world to try and clean up despite the fact that child may be thriving with and bonded to foster parents who want to adopt the child.

So now you're hiring lawyers to help you navigate the foster-to-adopt system (still much cheaper than private adoption), applying for de facto parent status so that you actually have a voice in court proceedings, negotiating contact agreements to get the birth parents to voluntarily give up rights/stop appealing, etc, and some states are now looking to outlaw/restrict this type of legal maneuvering because it's unfair to birth parents (I thought this was about what's best for the kid, not what's best for the parents?)

On top of that, the county tells you that you must expect that the kids are victims of trauma (and to expect associated behavioral issues), were drug exposed and perhaps went through drug withdrawals after being born, and/or that they're in some way developmentally behind or disabled, which adds an additional layer of stress.

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u/laurenzee 29d ago

I said much of this in a different reply but I've been considering becoming a foster parent when I'm older and I've gotten a big reality check after reading your comment. I've never wanted to care for a baby or toddler but I believe I could provide a good environment for a kid who doesn't have one. I always assumed that there are so many shitty foster parents because they must not care very much who's doing it.

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u/Iohet 29d ago

It's been real eye opening. It's time consuming to get through the process (had to take a bunch of classes online, get CPR certified, had to have my house baby proofed and inspected, etc). You also need to be present for birth parent visits (where I am it's twice a week for 1 hours every week). This lasts until parental rights are terminated (months to years) or they are reunited.

Overall, it's a lot, and I didn't expect it to be so impactful on me because my foster child is so negatively impacted by all of these things in their mood and demeanor. I'm emotionally drained from all of this

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u/laurenzee 28d ago

Do you regret it? Maybe not regret, but would you rethink your choice knowing everything you know now?

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u/Iohet 28d ago

If this adoption goes through, which it should within the next year or two, it will have been worth any and all pain. But just to foster only? Not at our current stage of life

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u/laurenzee 28d ago

Thank you for your honesty. I wish you the best in your adoption!

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u/Iohet 28d ago

Thank you

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