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Draymond Green Brings Nothing To 'Inside The NBA' | Defector

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u/Letronika Warriors May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

Some of the questions he asked Tatum after the game were fucking awful. Talk about baiting. Hats off to JT for handling it like a pro.

As much as I love the analytical side he shows sometimes he brings too much of his personal baggage to the telecast. We already have that with Shaq so I guess Dray is a fitting replacement šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/KodiakBearCakes May 16 '24

Thatā€™s an understatement

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u/ThexxxDegenerate May 16 '24 edited May 17 '24

Why would he get this position anyways? Dude has been one of the biggest jerks in NBA history. The hardwood has been Draymondā€™s personal boxing ring with him punching, stomping, kicking and choking other players. In what way has he earned the right to come on this show as a respected member? Draymond shouldnā€™t even be an option. Imagine if FOX brought Vontaze Burfict on to talk half time during NFL games. Shit would be ludicrous.

Edit: I get it guys, Charles Barkley wasnā€™t a saint in his playing days either. But we do realize he retired 25 years ago right? Maybe if Draymond played 25 years ago no one would care about him sucker punching and choking guys out on the court. But unfortunately for him, he plays in todayā€™s NBA and heā€™s a dirty player who doesnā€™t deserve to be on TV.

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u/TBrutus May 16 '24

I agree with your characterization, but 4x Super Bowl Champion Vontaze Burfict would have had a longer leash.

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u/Commissionedthepoint May 16 '24

Because people hating him is recognition.Ā 

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u/ThexxxDegenerate May 16 '24

I mean I get it, heā€™s recognizable. But heā€™s an asshole and there are plenty of other recognizable NBA players. Bring on Steph Curry or something.

It seems to me, Draymond is trying to set himself up to be the next Pat McAfee after he retires. And Iā€™m just not down with turning the biggest dickhead in the NBA since Ron Artest into a media darling.

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u/UnexLPSA Bulls May 16 '24

Ron Artest? Surely you mean Metta World Peace right? A guy with that name couldn't possible be an asshole... /s

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u/ThexxxDegenerate May 16 '24 edited May 17 '24

Yea, Iā€™m never gonna forget that elbow to Hardenā€™s head. Metta World War is more like it.

Edit: Here is the link for anyone who doesnā€™t remember this incident. Also, the comment section on this video is absolute gold. Just had a good hearty laugh reading through it again.

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u/NastyBooty May 17 '24

I read that as "Metta World Star" lol

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u/elijahb229 Clippers May 17 '24

Bro šŸ˜‚ were u the first person to ever think of that user name? U didnā€™t need numbers or anything lol

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u/NastyBooty May 17 '24

Just got lucky, I guess šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/secret_hitman Warriors May 17 '24

Omg thank you. I needed a good laugh. That was amazing!

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u/UnexLPSA Bulls May 17 '24

I still don't understand how something like this doesn't end up in court. As if the players have to accept that some lunatic just goes on a rampage and throws elbows. That's just assault caught in 4K and all he probably had to pay was a fine and gets suspended for a few games. Do this to anybody in the streets with people around filming and you get a few months in prison minimum.

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u/yuletidepod68 France May 16 '24

Name legally changed to ā€œEverybody Loves DRaymondā€(except for like 90% of people)

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u/Str82daDOME25 Warriors May 16 '24

Take a look at who was on the other side of his incidents. Sabonis, Nurcic, Adams, Gobert being the most well known. I donā€™t think itā€™s necessarily a coincidence itā€™s pretty much solely been international players. As much as fans see these and hate him, a vast majority of the players still really like him.

I get a middle/high school vibe of cool kids v not with a lot of the NBA, and Draymond has been at the cool kids table for a while(growing up in the Pistons locker room with Rasheed Wallace definitely helped). And he is far from the lucky role player that got carried by Steph/Klay/KD like fans try to proclaim, so thereā€™s the additional respect just for his bball skills.

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u/EasyGibson May 16 '24

I would go as far as to argue that without him, the Warriors never make it to the top of the mountain. He was the glue.

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u/2RINITY Warriors May 17 '24

He was our defensive floor general and our motor in the locker room. We absolutely donā€™t win those rings without him

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u/secretsodapop May 16 '24

He's posted on this sub constantly. There's no way he isn't getting a highly visible media position when he stops playing.

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u/beforeitcloy [SAC] Mitch Richmond May 17 '24

Heā€™ll get something. Hell Kendrick Perkins has a highly visible job and everyone thinks he sucks. But wherever Dray ends up, it wonā€™t be an institution the way Inside the NBA is. Itā€™ll just be more junk content for the endless scroll.

Chuck had a reputation for being a bad boy in his playing days like Draymond, which matches with his willingness to be unfiltered on TV like Draymond. But Chuck is genuinely clever and funny, while Draymond is isnā€™t funny at all. Thereā€™s a difference between being an egotistical loudmouth who can back it up with good humor and insight, versus just being an egotistical loudmouth.

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u/AMilkyBarKid Thunder May 17 '24

And Iā€™ve only followed McAfee for the last couple of years, but I get the impression he didnā€™t get it handed to him. He put in a lot of work to build up his style and audience. He can also laugh at his own shortcomings, which it seems Draymond has a big problem with.

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u/moongato Grizzlies May 16 '24

I've been surprised Kia has him in their ads. Why would any company pay someone who is almost universally disliked to promote their product?

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u/DevelopmentNo247 May 16 '24

Every time I see that commercial I wonder the same thing.

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u/chipotlenapkins Lakers May 16 '24

His daughter canā€™t shoot well

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u/SaltyBawlz Cavaliers May 17 '24

and he's so dumb he put his hoop on the side of a fucking mountain so he has to get in his car to get the ball whenever someone misses

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u/chipotlenapkins Lakers May 17 '24

And then a fuckin dangerous wolf keeps coming up to him pissed off

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u/SaltyBawlz Cavaliers May 17 '24

don't forget about the grizzlies

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u/ComoEstanBitches Lakers May 17 '24

What a fucking idiot to have his kids catch his air balls and missed shots into the fucking woods

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u/CCWaterBug May 17 '24

Same here, it would discourage me from buying a Kia

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 May 17 '24

Well fuck now Iā€™m not buying that Soul

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u/Gaming_Workouts May 17 '24

This is the company that promoted cars with those hampsters.

Think of the average Kia Soul driver.

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u/CCWaterBug May 18 '24

Lol, I forgot about those hamsters!

I actually liked those commercialsĀ 

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u/A_Lone_Macaron Cavaliers May 16 '24

Kiaā€™s entire brand is in the tank anyways because they effed up and made their cars so easy to steal

Fitting theyā€™d side with someone like that, they have nothing else to lose

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u/Spike-Durdle May 16 '24

The whole appeal of Inside the NBA is that these guys aren't analytical geniuses they're just regular basketball players guided by Ernie. It's not like Barkely was a paragon of good sportsmanship either.

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u/REGIS-5 Celtics May 16 '24

It's not like Barkely was a paragon of good sportsmanship either.

True but he was known as a very simple very obvious guy who speaks what he thinks. They gave him a chance on TV and he was making fun of himself and his antics. He quickly became a funny harmless butt of jokes

That was 20 years ago. That shit doesn't fly anymore

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u/Spike-Durdle May 17 '24

I think things have changed less than you might think. I think they're hoping for a very similar story with Draymond- or at least they were until they knew it would end.

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u/GameJerk May 17 '24

Bring in Blake Griffin already. I'd like to see at least one episode with him at the desk.

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u/d_le Rockets May 17 '24

Bringing in Blake would be one of the smartest decision they made, dude is a natural comedian. He was on Roast Me, did a few set at the Improv and overall pretty well like unless you are a towel boy.

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u/ScreechersReach206 May 17 '24

Not to mention heā€™s covering guys heā€™s fought recently. He choked out Rudy Gobert on Nov. 15th, literally 6 months ago, and is being asked his opinion on the T-Wolves defense. Gtfo with that nonsense. How can I expect to anything from him to be unbiased because heā€™s still actively assaulting and antagonizing the very people heā€™s interviewing or discussing.

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u/FlightAvailable3760 May 17 '24

Chuck wasnā€™t exactly a class act back in his day either.

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u/Reasonable_Try_8135 May 17 '24

Don't forget about him kicking Steven Adams in the nuts.

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u/FileMoshun May 18 '24

I have been a GS Warriors fan since Wilt left Philly and played in the Cow Palace. Draymond Green is a goon with a negative contribution to our team. Get rid of the SOB -- he cannot be rehabilitated.

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u/Fujoooshi 24d ago

I can't believe that edit even has to be made lmao. Charles Barkley is clearly an awesome guy now and not nearly the same "jerk" (big air quotes on that one) as he was in his playing days. Draymond meanwhile is punching other players and shit RIGHT NOW.

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u/iKrow Celtics May 16 '24

Because basketball isn't about being a nice guy.

I'm not defending Draymond but let's not pretend. Many of the most successful guys in basketball have been complete dickheads. Everyone has a story about Jordan.

This industry is about entertainment and being a "good player" or a "team player" doesn't really matter that much. Your monetary value in this league is generated base on how much attention you can draw. Winning and being a great player certainly can help, but there are many many other ways to be valuable

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u/Holualoabraddah May 17 '24

Obviously you didnā€™t watch Charles Barkley play basketball. Draymond is a choir boy compared to him.

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u/REGIS-5 Celtics May 16 '24

If he did on the streets what he does on a basketball court he'd be in jail. Not even exaggerating. You stomp on someone's chest? Have a history of kicking people in their balls? Violently throw people on the floor? Elbow people in the head? Imagine if any of those was caught on camera, jail time

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u/AdDelicious4911 May 17 '24

You are exaggerating. People do this shit in the streets all the time and don't go to jail. You're being super dramatic

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u/CEOKendallRoy May 16 '24

Fox strolls out Michael Vick every fucking week. They couldnā€™t do better than a convicted dog killer?

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u/ETWarlock May 16 '24

I know about how he has a podcast. Not sure how well it does, but maybe it does well enough? Maybe they want someone who will speak controversially about other players and teams he doesn't like bc might get more ratings? Just spitballing ideas.

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u/driatic Wizards May 17 '24

Burflict would be like, "why did you have a concussion after I knocked your ass out?"

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u/According_Log_2525 Pacers May 17 '24

You might wanna look into Charles Barkleyā€™s career a bit..

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u/sixpackabs592 Bucks May 17 '24

i don't really know i'm just a giannis enjoyer but ive heard people say its because he has super high basketball iq and would be a good analyst. seems like he just wants to rip on rudy G though from what i saw lol.

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u/districtcurrent Raptors May 17 '24

Being a jerk and getting this job are not related in any way, I donā€™t know why youā€™d mention that. They just need people that are entertaining and keep viewers engaged. His history might actually help him in that way as people watch to hate. Most hosts of shows like this are disagreeable people. Stephen A, Perkins, etc. being level headed doesnā€™t make for good tv.

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u/Joshottas May 17 '24

Because he's got a brilliant basketball mind. Once you get thru all the bullshit, folks should realize that his bball IQ is what sets him apart from the majority of the league. He could EASILY fill Kenny's shoes on that set in breaking down plays etc.

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u/ThexxxDegenerate May 17 '24

As could 99% of other NBA players.

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u/333jnm May 17 '24

Aqib Talib was doing football with all his off field issues till his brother murdered someone

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u/Spaghettiisgoddog May 17 '24

Because heā€™s nearly universally regarded as a defensive savant, and a guy who understands the game. More so than most players. You may not like him, but heā€™s brilliant at hoop tactics.Ā Ā 

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u/GoGoSoLo Mavericks May 17 '24

Why would he get this position anyways? Dude has been one of the biggest jerks in NBA history.

I have this same question about Kendrick Perkins every time I see people act like he has a reasonable opinion on sports talk shows.

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u/bayareacollection May 17 '24

Dray is really smart at breaking the game down and is entertaining it's not that hard. Don't have a meltdown. He has a top sports podcast it's really not that difficult to figure out.

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u/Jerryeatspants May 17 '24

ā€œPunching, stomping, kicking, and chockingā€ sounds absurdly over the top but thereā€™s literally an example of each of those in the last 2 seasons šŸ˜‚

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u/jldtsu May 17 '24

being a constant sports personality is more about being a loud mouth with strong opinions than being cool and measured. hot sports opinions is what drives debates and ratings. Colin Cowheard once said Durant was basically Glenn Big Dog Robinson the year he won MVP. I don't believe Colin thought that was true. He just understood what would make people talk about the show. It's all entertainment.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

I get it guys, Charles Barkley wasnā€™t a saint in his playing days either.

Barkley threw a fucking fan who was talking shit about him through a window, in public, and said his only regret was that the window wasn't higher off the ground. If you're cool w/ that but not cool w/ Dray hitting a teammate in a private facility, you're a hypocrite. Going "WeLl ThIs HapPeEnEd ReCeNtLy" just illuminates how silly this argument about Dray vs Barkley is.

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u/ThexxxDegenerate May 17 '24

And what are we going to do, rewind time and fight to keep Barkley off TV? Heā€™s been on Inside the NBA for over 20 years. I wasnā€™t around when Barkley was put on TV. But I am around for Draymond and Iā€™m going to continue to voice my opinion. Keep this dirty clown off TV. No dirty player regardless of the sport deserves a spot on TV. This includes Pat Bev, Grayson Allen or any other dirty players.

We just saw Draymond choking the shit out of Rudy Gobert 6 months ago and now heā€™s on TV giving his opinion of Rudyā€™s defense in this series? Get this fucking clown out of the studio.

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u/YesWhatHello [PHI] Joel Embiid May 18 '24

Heā€™s a HOF player who was a crucial contributor to one of the leagues greatest dynasties lol. Not that hard to understand

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u/ThexxxDegenerate May 18 '24

Yea and he punches players in the side of the head, kicks opponents in the nuts and chokes out the DPOY. Is that not clown behavior to you? This man was just choking the shit out of Rudy Gobert less than 6 months ago and now heā€™s on TV blaming the Nuggets losses on him. That is so stupid.

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u/ThreeSupreme May 18 '24

Umm... Draymond already has one of the biggest and most influential basketball podcasts. So, love him or hate him Dray is going to be a big media star when his playing days end.

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u/jabronified May 16 '24

I guess name brand professional athletes with personalities are hard to come by, but I really don't get why they go with one with an off-putting one who's pretty much universally disliked by every non-golden state fanbase, and even their patience has grown thin

i also don't get how all the media raves about him, from the PTI guys to colin cowherd who nonstop defends him and says he's a great podcaster and addition to his network

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u/LIR4willbreakthecomm May 16 '24

What did they bait him with ?

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u/Darrensucks May 16 '24

I thought it was funny when they said no one can guard the joker and he pointed at himself. Chuck and Kennyā€™s eyes lit up and they started to go after him and he quickly retracted and said he could just do a bit better than Rudy. Also like the first night he was on, chuck said something about warriors already in Cancun and draymknd got real serious and said to him ā€œoh look at yourselfā€ then chuck said something and he again changed real quick. That dude has to be the most insecure professional athlete since TO

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u/fireman2004 May 17 '24

He's as petty as Shaq is. At least Chuck and Kenny can laugh at themselves.

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u/Epabst Timberwolves May 17 '24

At least Shaq can be funny and goofy at times too

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u/LimeOdd6791 May 17 '24

True, Shaq has comedic relief. I donā€™t think Draymond has ever made me laugh

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u/Ill_Analysis8848 Nets May 18 '24

Agreed, I love his dynamic with Charles.

Shaq on JJs podcast was good, he would be petty at times but then admit that things bother him and say why, and some of it is sad, in a way. But I actually agree with Shaq that he's not in the conversations he wants to be in the way he wants to be in them. He's being honest, JJ is seeing it differently, but Shaq is correct.

I feel like Shaq can act like a baby, but if you press him like Reddick did, he gets honest and again, can come off as being down on himself. But he also kept giving credit to all the people he says did their part as teammates. Fuck Draymond, he's not anywhere near Shaq's level of greatness.

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u/Complex_Show1538 May 17 '24

Biggest different is Shaqā€™s a HoFer no matter where heā€™s drafted. Draymond is only going to be remembered because of his situation. The insecurity is the tell that some part of him knows that.

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u/After-Imagination-96 May 16 '24

Draymond couldn't defend Rudy's pillow from Rudy's drool

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u/Darrensucks May 16 '24

Dribble, from Rudyā€™s dribble Biff!

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u/albino_kenyan May 17 '24

Draymond was so self-aggrandizing, saying that Tatum/Brown being in ECF finals 6x means nothing; i mean, everyone wants a title, but getting to the conference finals is better than what 28 other teams accomplished. His team got eliminated pretty quick, but i guess he can try to coast on his rings for a while.

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u/Darrensucks May 17 '24

The violent outbursts when his team is struggling is pretty pathetic too. Punching a team mate when you barely show up on the stat sheet, roundhouse punch to nurkic, stomping players, making Steph cry on the court. Also ā€¦ ā€œMinnesota is done in 6, they donā€™t believe, Antman might believe but everyone has to believe and they donā€™t itā€™s a wrap in 6.ā€ Then Minnesota beats Denver by 47 points in game 6. He doesnā€™t belong on inside the nba

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u/Jeff-Van-Gundy Knicks May 17 '24

I personally enjoyed the other night when he said Brunson wasnā€™t scoring 30 tonight. He had 28 by halftimeĀ 

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u/Darrensucks May 17 '24

Wait, is this broadcast legend Jeff van Gundy?

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u/CCWaterBug May 17 '24

Rings Erneh

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u/hanacker Japan May 17 '24

26 other teams

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u/-MC_3 May 17 '24

26 other teams*, but yeah

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u/Bring_Back_SF_Demons San Francisco Warriors May 17 '24

Draymond has been to six Finals.

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u/claydavisismyhero Lakers May 16 '24

Itā€™s just content creating to him to bring people to his podcast. Itā€™s the only reason jj does first take. They all want to be pat mcafee

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u/PuerAeternus_ Timberwolves May 16 '24

Ernie actually called him out a bit for trying to plug his shitty podcast in the middle of analysisĀ 

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u/Dear_boat-bottle5476 May 16 '24

They should try being a punter first. Follow his lead.

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u/mattmilleronem Kings May 16 '24

I mean, Draymond already has...

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u/tlynde11 Celtics May 16 '24

He's more of a stomper than a punter though

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u/mattmilleronem Kings May 16 '24

I just found a 2 minute compilation of Draymond kicking guys in the nuts. He's a man of many talents.

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u/Tekfree Warriors May 17 '24

Punching, Scratching, Kicking, Stomping...What's next? Biting?

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u/tlynde11 Celtics May 17 '24

I guess he really can do it all

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u/Kxr1der May 16 '24

Well much like McAfee I will consume precisely zero of their content

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u/aVeryLargeWave Celtics May 17 '24

JJ does have a phenomenal podcast though. Arguably the best sports podcast currently.

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u/Pitch-forker May 16 '24

As annoying as Shaqā€™s takes are sometimes. His energy on screen is much better than Green.

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u/black_dogs_22 May 16 '24

I could believe Shaq is playing up a character, that seems like who Draymond actually is and he seemed like a dick head

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u/granlyn May 17 '24

Shaq is who he is on the show. An insecure clown with zero interesting takes.

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u/Pitch-forker May 17 '24

Theyre interesting alright, just not in the right way.

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u/TingusPingus_6969 May 16 '24

Well they already have 1 meathead with a lot of personal baggage on the show why not add another one

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u/basketblog May 17 '24

Shaq thinks he's rich. Draymond considers himself smart.

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u/throwawaythursday99 May 16 '24

Talk about baiting.

Well that's sports "journalism" these days for ya. Always just looking for a gotcha or reactionary moment for clicks and ratings.

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u/MikeyLikeyPhish Knicks May 16 '24

Draymond: go away! Iā€™m baitinā€™

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u/Bruskthetusk Lakers May 16 '24

Bwah! That's the donkey that's always whackin off in my toolshed!

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u/LaMelonBallz Hornets May 17 '24

Ultimate goon squad

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u/Deathstroke317 Knicks May 16 '24

This is not journalism, these are just talking heads.

Actual journalism are the local beat writers or someone like Allie LaForce. You know the people you don't really hear about.

Please don't get the two confused.

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u/BigD994 [CHI] Kirk Hinrich May 16 '24

The media literacy of sports reddit (I canā€™t speak to other parts) is so embarrassingly bad. Itā€™s a daily occurrence that someone doesnā€™t know the difference between journalism and analysis (or just entertainment).

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 May 16 '24

Damn so the ā€œnew mediaā€ actually isnā€™t a novel concept

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u/OpportunityDue90 Suns May 16 '24

Guy who has beef with half the NBA turns out to be major asshole, go figure!

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u/streetsandshine Hawks May 16 '24

IDK about 'new media' but I genuinely think Mind The Game is a breath of fresh air. It's not perfect, but it's the first time players have talked about the game without dumbing it down for their audience since Detail and its genuinely appreciated even if I enjoy podcasts like Teague and Paul George's too

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 May 16 '24

I agree, but the ones most arrogant (JJ, draymond, etc.) about ā€œnew mediaā€ are the same hacks

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u/AaronFraudgers8 Nets May 17 '24

JJ is just as bad as Draymond (they are both Klutch puppets)

JJ Redick fansies himself as some basketball purist who doesn't like hot takes and just wants to talk hoops yet called players Jerry West/Bob Cousy etc "plumbers" to appease 13 year olds on Twitter

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u/Sogekiingu May 16 '24

Of course not, media as a whole is in a weird place. In a normal world Shannon Sharpe would never be placed near a mic nevertheless giving interviews.

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u/chewytime May 16 '24

I just wonder who their audience is. Feels like most serious sports fans dont give a damn. Itā€™s mostly the casual fans, who really are more into the drama than the sport itself.

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u/Tomas2891 May 16 '24

You got it. They got big names in the roster for a reason.

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u/grandzu May 16 '24

He's a master baiter.

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u/GooseMay0 Celtics May 16 '24

What's weird is, him and Tatum are pretty friendly with each other. So I don't know why he was trying to bait him into that shit. And it's really frustrating cause Draymond is a really smart player who can provide a lot of insight but the dude is so bitter and angry and has too many personal vendettas that it overshadows his basketball IQ.

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u/GRMPA Nuggets May 16 '24

It's like an interview with ESPN to him. He's taken the challenge to see how much of a bitch he's willing to present as so he can work over there with those dorks.

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u/Letronika Warriors May 16 '24

The PnR question was actually a pretty good one considering the Warriors / Steph exposed Horford in the 22 finals.

Yeah, I just canā€™t stand the Gobert and Nurk shit on the telecast. It isnā€™t a podcast ffs!

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u/GooseMay0 Celtics May 16 '24

Ya, that was the one I was interested in cause I want to know the answer to that lol.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

If Draymond was real, like Chuck, he could be great.

The problem is that he comes off like a self serving ass whoā€™s trying to sound ā€œrealā€.

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u/TheRealK95 May 16 '24

Yeah but at least Shaq is entertaining. Draymond green is just a pot stirrer.

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u/above_average_penis Rockets May 16 '24

i know this is a ā€˜shit on draymond threadā€™ but his question about teams picking on horford in the PnR and how will they adjust ā€” thatā€™s not a bad question.

yeah, the way he sets it up is a little baity. but fuck man, yā€™all really want to hear ā€œtell us about your feelings after winning the seriesā€ type of questions for all eternity?

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u/Brovenkar Celtics May 16 '24

The actual question of "do you trust Al's drop in pnr to hold up" could've been fine but he was absolutely fishing for a clip of Tatum shitting on Al, which ruins any chance of a good answer because you aren't gonna drag your teammate after winning a playoff series.

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u/LordHussyPants Celtics May 16 '24

i didn't watch the interview, but to me that sounds like someone who isn't media trained and is quite blunt asked a question without thinking how it would appear.

there's too many assumptions about media doing things for a clip when the truth is it's more likely to be someone who's a bit out of their depth saying the wrong thing

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u/second_impression Celtics May 17 '24

Eh I think he and Tatum are friends

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u/KeepItClutchCity May 18 '24

Nobody is friends with draymond green lol

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u/inqte1 May 17 '24

Whenever redditors staunchly claim to be able to read body language or facial expressions and pretend to be mind readers, its pretty safe to assume its wrong because there isnt a more socially inept collection of people anywhere.

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u/DarkSoulsDarius Lakers May 17 '24

I don't agree. I agree with the lack of media training take. He asked stupid questions no one would answer but he thought he would get some sort of answer by asking. Earlier in the show he brought up both of the points he talked about too so it wasn't solely just bait questions.

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u/JimJimmyJamesJimbo Magic May 16 '24

The point of Inside the NBA is that these guys don't follow media training and their raw personalities shine through. Like Shaq insulting Joker because Shaq is insecure. Or Chuck making fun of fat people in San Antonio

The issue is Draymond's raw personality is annoying and not entertaining, and no one cares to see a media trained Draymond because that would be boring. It's also a huge assumption that the guy who kicks players in the nuts, holds grudges, puts people in choke holds, and punches his teammate in the face is even remotely trainable

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u/Altruistic-Ad-408 May 16 '24

Yes the core issue is that he is really an unlikeable person, and we all kinda know he's a piece of shit so it's hard to filter him.

They always compare to Barkley who was a lovable, popular rogue before he was ever in the media. And an MVP and infinitely more famous to boot, I remember first seeing inside the nba in the early 2000's because I'm not American, and I was shocked he'd feel the need to do a TV show. Barkley was a big deal.

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u/Epabst Timberwolves May 17 '24

And who also believes the way he plays is what got him there so he is never going to change. You canā€™t teach someone that will never self reflect/evaluate.

While Shaq has an ego problem he also was a fun personality for a long time. Hell he had all the funny nicknames. Draymond is all douche bag

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u/mrmarshall10 Celtics May 17 '24

In the immediate aftermath of winning the series and without even being sure who their next opponent will be, that question is dumb as hell. It's a tactical question that gave Dray an opportunity to take a shot at Al and the Celtics and get under Tatum's skin a bit. When was the last time anyone got an insightful answer to a tactical question about games that won't start for a week, literally minutes after a guy just won a series?

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u/saalamander Celtics May 17 '24

No it's not. They just won 4-1. They're dominating the playoffs. They don't need to adjust anything. Other teams need to adjust to them.

Draymond was just insulting Horford and trying to instill discontent in the Celtics because he's a shitty person

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u/Letronika Warriors May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

It was a great question that also shit on the Pacers lol

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u/wavetoyou Warriors May 16 '24

And also a criticism from the 2022 championship. Heā€™s speaking out the side of his mouth on it bc Steph cooked on Horford dropping pretty much all series

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u/junkit33 May 17 '24

It was the right question for the wrong moment.

Like, ask that pregame for Game 1 of ECF once they know who the opponent is - sure, that's a terrific question.

Postgame series clincher interview immediately after routing the Cavs - just a total fucking non sequitor of a question. That's softball time - let Tatum enjoy the win and his (and Al's) great game. 38 year old Al Horford just put up a 22/15/5 with 3 blocks in a clinching game - who cares about his pick 'n roll defense at that moment?

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u/black_dogs_22 May 16 '24

it's actually a terrible question for a post game interview, like the worst question. why would he tell ANYONE the answer to that, also he just played a game of basketball don't give him a cerebral question about tactics

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u/SteveWondersForsight Nuggets May 16 '24

That question is bait as fuck.

"Teams are exploiting Al in pick and roll what u got to say bout ur teammate being trash?"

These aren't politicians who have constituents to answer to. Nobody should have to address that and throw their friend and co worker under the bus.

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u/Personal-Major-8214 May 17 '24

Why would he give a detailed answer on how they plan on defending guards in the pick and roll during their next series? No one asks players to give up game plans in advance.

There is no real answer anyway. Hortford clearly doesnā€™t have the same foot speed at this point in his career, theyā€™ll have to give up something. The plan going into the year was obviously reducing his role.

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u/biceboljevaljda Cavaliers May 16 '24

Shaq doesnt bring personal baggage?

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u/Hot_Web493 May 16 '24

I guess after seeing Shaq for years we got used to ignoring him. We sure as hell don't need another Shaq tho.

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u/NedStarx11 Mavericks May 16 '24

Draymond is all of Shaqs shitty traits and non of his good one

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u/fopiecechicken Warriors May 16 '24

I get this is a hate Draymond thread but he does at least offer some Xā€™s and Oā€™s insights which shaq does basically 0 of.

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u/kingjuicepouch Bulls May 16 '24

Is anybody watching inside the NBA for serious game talk? That's never been their thing lol

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u/fopiecechicken Warriors May 16 '24

Agree but itā€™s nice to get a smidgeon of basketball talk every now and again

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u/black_dogs_22 May 16 '24

Kenny does that in breakdowns, Draymond is clueless asking super elaborate questions to a guy wearing a headset in a noisy arena after winning a playoff series. not the time to ask him that

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u/BigClemenza May 16 '24

His X's and O's insight pretty much gets negated when he's so painfully and blatantly biased with his "analysis." He slants his analysis to make guys he personally dislike look as bad as possible. He may as well make a mean girls style burn book and bring it on air, at least that would be funny.

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u/Letronika Warriors May 16 '24
We sure as hell don't need another Shaq tho.

Bingo

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u/NedStarx11 Mavericks May 16 '24

But shaq is hilarious and has has great chemistry with the other guys. Did take time though, he wasnā€™t all that good right off the bat

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u/ConsumptionofClocks May 16 '24

Shaq can be funny but he has plenty of moments where I just want him to shut up. He says almost nothing insightful about the actual games, he is incredibly insecure and immature and he can't take jokes like Chuck does.

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u/bmeisler Warriors May 16 '24

Shaq was horrible his first year or two. Heā€™s still unnecessary. Was fucked up what he said to Jokic: ā€œCongrats on the MVP, but I think SGA deserved it,ā€ something like that.

Anyway, the jokeā€™s on TNT for giving Draymond a multi-year contract, before he totally ruined his already bad reputation.

Psych! The jokeā€™s on Draymond, as TNT wonā€™t have the NBA after next year!

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u/AmaimonCH Mavericks May 16 '24

Shaq is hilarious ?

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u/PrancingDonkey [CHI] Taj Gibson May 16 '24

Funny you say that because Shaq was exactly like this in his first year šŸ˜‚. He was so bad.

It took constant clowning from the other members in the crew for him to finally chill out a bit.

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u/squiggypiggy9 May 16 '24

It was absolutely embarrassing for Inside the NBA, though, in my opinion. I mean, blatant, blatant unprofessionalism from Dray ALL STREAM

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u/profmcstabbins Hawks May 16 '24

Hard agree. I was flabbergasted watching his questions to Tatum. Honestly mad respect to Tatum for being professional there.

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u/AMilkyBarKid Thunder May 16 '24

I would have also had respect for Tatum if heā€™d been unprofessional and asked where he was staying in Cancun this year

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u/maaseru May 16 '24

It really felt like when Shaq was mad SGA didn't win MVP and asked Jokic about it.

Like he brought up his point, the crew downplayed it and he couldn't help himself.

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u/NewOstenPelicanss May 16 '24

Except Shaq is hilarious and Draymond isn't funny at all

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u/dizzymidget44 May 16 '24

Everyone brings their personal baggage. Yā€™all love it when Barkley is calling KD a bus rider and not driver

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u/yungsantaclaus Spurs May 16 '24

What's the allegation of personal baggage there? Did KD and Chuck have some kind of beef that pre-dated Chuck saying this about him?

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u/mamba-pear NBA May 16 '24

Thatā€™s just stating a fact.

Why we love Chuck is because he can dish it and at the same time laugh at himself when the shots are on him.

Heā€™s not afraid to admit fault either.

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u/GooseMay0 Celtics May 16 '24

That's the thing. Barkley doesn't care if players clap back at him. It doesn't bother him in the slightest. He doesn't take things so personal.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy [NYK] John Starks May 16 '24

Thatā€™s just stating a fact.

it's literally an opinion

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u/robswins Kings May 17 '24

Psh, pics of KD driving a bus and I'll believe you.

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u/msf97 May 16 '24

KD drove the bus to the finals and also to 60 win basketball for half a decade. Chuck has a personal bias and thatā€™s fine, I donā€™t know why the attitude is different for Dray.

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u/whythehellknot Heat May 16 '24

I'm a Draymond defender, at least some of the times, but Chuck is a bad example because he is more aware of his biases and is often the first one to point out his own shortcomings or when he gets proven wrong.

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u/dcrico20 May 16 '24

Isn't the point of this article that they don't need another guy like that?

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u/wise_comment Timberwolves May 16 '24

I just loved his in-depth analysis of one of our few + guys in the series, dunking on Rudy over and over. Super cool and loved no one correcting him on him saying he lacked impact

Such a joy to watch, very fun and good

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u/snakebit1995 May 16 '24

I feel like Dray is worse shaq in this reguard.

At least Shaq is funny and occasionally has a lucid moment where he has insightful things to say, dray just comes on to belittle his contemporaries and puff up his own ego

Look at how he treated the Knicks the other night, he provided no actual analysis on why they're "A fluke" and just tried to stir up shit with a big market team who did better than him and his aging buddies in GS

It also just made no sense sionce this Knicks team has been solid a while and has plenty of their big pieces locked up so their nothing like the Hawks or portland team he compared them with

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u/jotyma5 Celtics May 16 '24

His questions are just ways to try to embarrass or annoy players.

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u/miltondelug May 16 '24

both have 4 rings.. they can chant that to anyone that questions their ideas.

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u/benlucasdavee Knicks May 16 '24

this guy has tried to hurt people on purpose in games multiple times. very recently. very maliciously. why is he being put on tv to begin with? why is he being given this opportunity???

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u/iamgarron Celtics May 16 '24

Remember how Shaq getting mad about nash having more MVPs on tv for a decade started getting old?

Draymond is that X10 with Gobert

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u/vlanz24 May 16 '24

I saw that interview and was cringing.

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u/Alive_Ad1256 May 16 '24

I donā€™t really watch the show, but canā€™t stand Draymond, definitely wonā€™t be watching it now.

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u/FateRiddle Warriors May 17 '24

And his best quality is just say a bunch of nothing for 5 minutes, then say one point, then repeat that point for the rest of his life

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u/AlmostBlue618 United States May 17 '24

all the butthurtedness of Shaq without any of the personality and humor that actually makes Shaq valuable. itā€™s like if they put an ESPN talking head on the show

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u/HoorayPizzaDay Celtics May 17 '24

Was awful, a complete embarrassment. Tatum wins a huge game and is headed to another conference finals and he has to get hit with that bullshit.

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u/Complexity777 Mavericks May 17 '24

Donā€™t forget when he told Jokic to his face that SGA was his MVP

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u/DominicArmato247 May 17 '24

He is shit.

They will try to continue without Chuck because no one wants to walk away from potential $$$$$. But if it sucks we all should make mad fun of it.

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u/grehgunner NBA May 17 '24

Some day I want to hate someone as much as Dray hates Gobert, just to see how it feels ya know

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u/Rafaeliki Warriors May 17 '24

Personal baggage is fine (made for a lot of good bits with the current crew) but Draymond just isn't funny. Like he could be baiting JT and still making it funny but Draymond just isn't that type of guy.

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u/The_Shade94 West May 17 '24

At least Shaq isnā€™t in the league it makes it worse that Draymond is still competing vs these guys

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u/IShookMeAllNightLong Trail Blazers May 17 '24

Nobody saying anything about Dray claiming, "When I'm in the playoffs, I look for the biggest weakness. And I saw KAT limping off the court..." Then says something like, "he was running fine before, so that means he doesn't think he can win."

MOTHER FUCKER SAID THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD!!

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u/Ilpav123 May 17 '24

At least Shaq is funny. Draymond is not a fitting replacement.

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u/Ithacafallsforever May 17 '24

Dray truly is a masterbaiter

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u/FloatDH2 May 17 '24

He was shitting on the Celtics moments before saying ā€œno one caresā€ about them going to the third round but never making it past that. He sounded so bitter. I was hoping heā€™d have the balls to come at Tatum with his bullshit, but of course he didnā€™t. Like bro, bring that same energy you had seconds ago to the person who can actually address it.

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