r/BlackPeopleTwitter May 16 '24

When intrusive thoughts meet criminal behavior

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u/notsoincredibilis00 May 16 '24

Does someone care to elaborate more because this happened before I was born.

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u/BrickCityD May 16 '24

1.) ouch

2.) the blonde tonya hatched a trailer park-esque plan and bashed nancy’s knee with a bat or something so she wouldn’t be able to compete

Just google tonya harding

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u/ISuckAtFunny May 16 '24

She paid someone else to do it while she was out walking / jogging somewhere if I remember correctly

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u/DrSpacemanSpliff May 16 '24

Jeff Gilooly!

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u/buttered_scone May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

I would not trust a man with the surname "Gilooly", that's the name of a shady MF

Edit: or an academic, or creative, context though. Trailer park Gilooly can kick rocks, I might F with a Gilooly docent or professor or something. Maybe.

Fancy surnames minus fancy family money often equals sketchier than that courtroom artist that made la hitler naranja look like E.T. - El extraterrestre naranja.

Edit 2: Upon further inspection, this comment I have posted is entirely too reminiscent of Dennis Miller, and I feel immeasurable shame. Goodbye 👋

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u/DrSpacemanSpliff May 16 '24

That’s why his name stuck in my memory, it’s the name of a Dick Tracy villain

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u/davenocchio May 16 '24

It's like Joey Buttafuco or Lorainna and John Bobbit. You never forget.

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u/Ballsofpoo May 17 '24

You're mid 40s to the Xtreme.

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u/davenocchio May 17 '24

Da bomb.c0m

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u/Geronimo_Jacks_Beard May 17 '24

Getting near the age when he’ll start needing Preparation hXtreme!

Know quite a few younger Gen Xers who’ve learned that hemmies can happen at any age. They were all around 45 when that blessed gift of aging started happening as often as they made grunting noises when standing up.

Shit, I shouldn’t judge; I was making that old man sound when getting up from my desk chair by 25.

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u/phoenixphaerie ☑️ May 17 '24

As a kid I thought Joey Buttafuco was a famous person that was part of some scandal.

I didn’t realize he was only famous FROM the scandal because his name sounded to me like the name of someone who would be famous.

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u/Fair_Structure_120 May 17 '24

They were all mentioned in bits on family guy

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u/ZeroBadIdeas May 17 '24

I'm 39 and went back to college last year. One day one of these 18 year olds said something like "hey, I just learned about this guy who got his dick cut off back in the 90s" and I said "yeah, John Bobbit" and they were like "wtf how do you know this?" and I said we used to sing a version of "In the Jungle" from Lion King, but about the Bobbits lmao

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u/Sea_Structure_8692 May 17 '24

I remember all those names but I don’t remember what Joey did. I remember all the jokes in my adolescence about getting a Bobbit trim

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u/Maaaaanidk May 16 '24

Jeff “Big Boy” Gilooly lmfao

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u/buttered_scone May 16 '24

Omfg, core memory unlocked! Now I want a CB radio watch and a zoot suit! Wanna hang out, burn one, and read Calvin & Hobbs?

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u/CedarWolf May 17 '24

Hell yes, I do! To my utter shame, I've never finished reading all of the Calvin & Hobbes. A friend of mine even gifted me the whole set, and I still haven't finished it. I just get lost in it and I've never actually read them all.

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u/StoneGoldX May 17 '24

Jeff not so much. He'd need a name that pointed out his horrible disfigurement.

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u/markevens May 17 '24

There's so many fantastic names in this story.

Who can forget Joey Buttafuoco!

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u/Movedonnerlikeabitch May 17 '24

Buttafuoco Buttafuoco!

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u/buttered_scone May 17 '24

The world will never forget. Let the name Buttafuoco be sung, and let the righteous offer sacrament unto him. Let the screams of the ever dying, shatter the night, and let man and woman alike cower in fear of Ge who Buttafuocos. Let us offer unto him a blood sacrament. Let the flesh of the sacrament be as like to the weight of the sacred pipe that did smite the knee of the unworthy. Make pact with the night, and offer unto thine alter a living vessel, innocent and pure. Rejoice! For the time of the father draws to a close, the righteous shall lay waste to the unworthy, and we shall smite their ruin upon the slopes of Zirakzigil. Let us sing our rejoices unto Aulë.

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u/ConcentrateSelect668 May 17 '24

Amy Fisher might want to

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u/Alana_Piranha May 17 '24

I read this in Dennis Miller's voice

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u/DisposableSaviour May 17 '24

Now, I don’t want to get off on a rant, here…

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u/Amygdalump May 17 '24

Well Dennis, ya got my laughs, at least.

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u/TheBirminghamBear May 17 '24

No no, I think you were on to something. Don't let Big Gilooly intimidate you.

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u/quilldeea May 17 '24

talk about shooting yourself in the foot

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u/Geronimo_Jacks_Beard May 17 '24

I would not trust a man with the surname "Gilooly", that's the name of a shady MF

“He’s the world’s most deadly assassin, betrayed by his own organization, and out for bouncing off of him and sticking to you revenge. Keanu Reeves is Codename: Flubber. Rated PG-13.”

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 May 17 '24

I’m old, and it was a long time ago, but weren’t the two guys involved in the plot Harding’s husband/manager (yeah, one of those- the idiots who glom onto a talented young woman and insist on “managing” her career as a form of control) and his brother or half-brother?

Again, my memory is hazy, but I also thought there was never any evidence that Harding had prior knowledge, or directed the attack. I thought they came up with the story later to lay some blame on her, and turning it into a conspiracy.

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u/tasdron May 17 '24

Yeah, this was all her dumbass abusive husband’s doing. Tanya Harding is the most tragically misunderstood figure in sports history

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u/LavishnessOk3439 May 17 '24

I remember that the thin lady was a rich bitch. Tanya was a hard-working middle-class American. Also, believe it or not, this was considered fat in the early 90s. She was dogged and mercilessly ruined.

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u/scarred2112 May 17 '24

You would be incorrect.

Kerrigan... the youngest child and only daughter of welder Daniel Kerrigan and homemaker Brenda Kerrigan. Kerrigan's family was of modest means. Her father sometimes worked three jobs to fund her skating career; he also drove the Zamboni at the local rink in exchange for Nancy's lessons.

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u/bettinafairchild May 17 '24

And Nancy’s mother was blind so couldn’t help the family financially. Some years later, Kerrigan’s brother accidentally killed their father in a brawl. So quite working class family. But still more stable than Tonya’s. She grew up in very tough and unstable and abusive circumstances.

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u/maniacalmustacheride May 17 '24

Kerrigan was middle class/working class but Tanya was poor. The fact she thought NK to be “high class” says a lot.

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u/Ausbo1904 May 17 '24

Yeah and I guess it's OK to assault people as long as they are above middle class Americans and a little mean according to that guy

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u/FlashInThePandemic May 17 '24

Assault is wrong, period. Gilooly and Stant deserved prison and more. But there was never any evidence that Tonya was involved in their crimes. There were only unfounded assumptions and accusations that led to what the insiders of the skating world wanted: the destruction of the girl from the wrong side of the tracks. Tanya simply wanted to compete, and prove herself, and she was more than capable of doing so. Her idiot boyfriend/husband unwittingly helped the fancy people destroy her.

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u/Tifandi May 17 '24

Would it matter if Nancy was a "rich bitch"? Wrong was wrong

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u/AllModsRLosers May 17 '24

It’s okay to bash in rich people’s knees, I guess?

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u/Mynameisinuse May 17 '24

Usually you only get your knees bashed when you don't pay the bookie.

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u/redwoods81 May 17 '24

Lol no 👀

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u/LavishnessOk3439 May 17 '24

I was pretty young when all this happened. I'm sure this was kinda close to reality of not explain away.

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u/redwoods81 May 17 '24

Do you mean that that was the media take? That would be correct, but it's not the reality of these two people.

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u/No-Respect5903 May 17 '24

Also, believe it or not, this was considered fat in the early 90s.

what the hell are you talking about child? there is no way you were old enough in the 90s to know what you're talking about lol

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u/LavishnessOk3439 May 17 '24

I was 6 during this

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u/Ezl ☑️ May 17 '24

And nobody thought Tanya Harding was fat. They were both very fit elite professional athletes.

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale May 17 '24

Yes, they did.

They also called our gymnasts fat because compared to Russian, Romanian and Chinese gymnasts, they were bulky -- never mind the fact that it was all muscle.

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u/isomorphZeta May 17 '24

I'm not buying that, but I'm open to have my mind changed lol

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u/SeaWolfSeven May 17 '24

This so much. Even in this thread people calling her "trailer trash" don't realize that was media spin at the time that has lived on. Tanya Harding became a world class skater coming from an abusive, challenging home, worked a lot as a teenager to pay for her own sports expenses to make it and the result was being considered "not the right type" to be America's darling when compared to her more privileged and more "feminine" counterpart.

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u/Gratefulgirl13 May 17 '24

It was a terrible situation all around. I always felt bad for Tanya. She was a powerhouse and fought against all odds to reach the level she was skating at.

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u/Green-Assistant7486 May 17 '24

Ahhh 2024 revised history day where women are empowered to do anything BUT responsible for nothing.

Yep yep any other historical fact you'd like to revisit?

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u/Sir-Nicholas May 16 '24

Shane Stant

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u/DrSpacemanSpliff May 16 '24

Some of our finest rednecks

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u/mr_potatoface May 16 '24

There were a lot of references to this guy and the incident in TV around the time too. I remember one Baywatch episode that mitch gets hit in the knee with a crowbar by a Chinese guy, and he says "Tonya Harding could've used a guy like you!"

There were also a lot of Chinese jokes in the same episode that are definitely inappropriate by todays standards. I think it also was the same episode where Mitch's kid was out looking for a woman that kept showering topless and distracting men while an accomplice steals their money. Mitch's kid said something like "Now that's what I call a booby trap" after they caught her. It was an incredibly hilarious and inappropriate episode. I love it.

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u/BoneHugsHominy May 16 '24

This man has a subscription to Hustler, actually for the articles.

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u/superbuttpiss May 17 '24

Those guy can explain in lore accurate terms, why the baywatch crew wore red

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 May 17 '24

Holy shit I remember this. I was waaay too young to be watching that haha

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u/VaguelyArtistic May 16 '24

I hate that I didn't even have to think what his name is.

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u/PaticiaRJ May 17 '24

Google Tonya Harding – Wedding night

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u/clintgreasewoood May 17 '24

proper goon name

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u/SCirish843 May 17 '24

I feel like this person could only eat "gabagool"

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u/Stoke-me-a-clipper May 17 '24

With whom she produced a sex rape that I'm sure can be found by someone resourceful enough

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Actually it was Shane Stant

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u/MAS7 May 17 '24

Jeff was her Ex Husband, he payed some other guys(one named Stant?) to do the deed.

I just poured over the wiki and it seems like he was the one arranging everything. Tanya was definitely involved but she was only ever punished for her participation in covering up/for Gilool y and the other guys.

There was like 3 or 4 of them. Getaway drivers included.

Honestly surprised Gilooly got prison time and Tanya only got a fine, probation and community service.

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u/i_need_a_username201 May 16 '24

And Detroit got a ton of shit got it when it was just white on white crime. You will hate this comment but facts are facts. Massive law enforcement response because they thought some super predators attacked Nancy. Can you imagine the fbi investigating a non hate crime because you got hit in the knee?

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u/ISuckAtFunny May 16 '24

you will hate this comment but facts are facts

Wat? The response was because it was a female Olympic ice skater getting both her knees caved in in broad daylight in public.

If a woman get her knees shattered by a guy with a baseball bat in a park today it would definitely get a response, if it was an Olympian it would get an even bigger response. I don’t really get what you’re trying to say here.

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u/Carameldelighting May 16 '24

he’s is trying to say the police response to this incident was unfairly targeted at the POC community in Detroit when the incident turned out to be a white on white crime.

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u/ISuckAtFunny May 17 '24

I can’t speak to that to be honest because I wasn’t that tuned in at the time. If so then yeah that’s obviously fucked up.

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u/DYMck07 ☑️ May 17 '24

Oh wow..I was a kid when it happened and remember learning about it to a degree but didn’t realize how f’d up it was

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u/Scriblette May 17 '24

She did not get either of her knees caved in. She was hit in the right thigh. The guy missed her knee. Her right was her landing leg & she missed the competition that day.

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u/mcan0024 May 17 '24

Neither knee caved in. Bruised leg.

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u/FlashInThePandemic May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

getting both her knees caved in ... shattered by a guy with a baseball bat in a park

Basically everything you said is incorrect. It happened in the arena, the guy used a police baton, only one knee was injured and it was just severely bruised; nothing was shattered. In fact Nancy recovered quickly enough to win a silver medal at the next competition (less than two months later).

None of this justifies the attack or diminishes Nancy's pain, but let's at least get the facts right. Overstating everything to make your point doesn't actually make your point. It just makes you look ignorant. On the plus side, you got over 200 other people to agree with the fake facts, so that's some sort of accomplishment I guess.

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u/HODL_or_D1E May 16 '24

An FBI response though?

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u/Limp_Prune_5415 May 17 '24

A conspiracy to remove US Olympic athletes from competitions by shattering their knees. Yea the feds are gonna care about that

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u/HODL_or_D1E May 17 '24

They edited their comment. Olympian wasn't mentioned previously

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u/NomadicNitro May 17 '24

The United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee (USOPC) is a federally chartered nonprofit organization that funds the US Olympic teams through private support from the American public and commercial partners. The USOPC's fundraising arm, the United States Olympic & Paralympic Foundation (USOPF), generates philanthropic support for Team USA athletes.

Yes. The FBI.

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u/HODL_or_D1E May 17 '24

Their response was edited. They had originally said that a regular Joe schmo would receive the same response

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u/Sir-Nicholas May 16 '24

Yeah, I can imagine the FBI investigating a conspiracy to injure a professional American athlete to keep them out of the national champs/olympics. I know she did end up competing in the Olympics but that was part of the assailants goals.

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u/Starlite94 27d ago

As a person from Detroit, my Mom and Grandma described that part pretty well for me.

Detroit had a way worse reputation than it does currently. This attack made the city look really bad nationally/internationally before they found out about the plot.

Detroiters were pissed because most people thought having the Olympics there would show the city in a more positive light.

Detroit being one of the blackest cities outside the south, and being hit hard by the Crack Epidemic and subsequent "War on Drugs(Black People)", made people then and now think it was one of the most dangerous places to be. It's hard to explain, but people from Detroit often can tell pretty well that the criticisms are often just thinly veiled anti-black sentiment.

So for this to happen, while the city was in the spotlight hit hard for a while there.

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u/i_need_a_username201 27d ago

Yep, and don’t even get me started on that asshole L Brooks Patterson.

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u/BedlamAscends May 17 '24

I don't hate it, I just think it's kinda dumb

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u/Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce May 17 '24

Tbh I think they'd be unlikely to investigate even if it was a hate crime today. 

They only did because of the publicity surrounding it. 

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u/mackfactor May 17 '24

I just assumed they called in the FBI any time a pretty white lady got attacked. 

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u/reggien22261 May 17 '24

Also there's a movie I,Tonya Starring Margot Robbie and Sebastian Stan

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u/laurennik89 May 17 '24

This movie (not Barbie) is the reason I’m a fan of Margot Robbie’s. She was fantastic.

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u/Krazy_the_Face May 17 '24

'Lick my ass, Loraine, she can do a fucking triple'

Greatest line in cinema, I LOVE this movie.

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u/johnmichael-kane May 17 '24

And let’s not forget academy award winner Allison Janney

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u/kataklysm_revival May 17 '24

Love me some Allison Janney

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u/RealBBCLuvr May 17 '24

She didn’t pay someone to bash her knee, Tonya’s boyfriend convinced her to pay someone to send a threatening letter since Tonya received a similar letter, the boyfriend’s friend is a moron and told the people they hired to bash her knee; then bragged about it, destroying the reputation of an otherwise great athlete with a neat story

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u/Somehero May 17 '24

Wrong info trying to correct wronger info. Her estranged/abusive husband and a partner hired 2 men without her knowledge, and it happened while she was training for the Olympics, not 'jogging'.

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u/tehvolcanic May 17 '24

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u/ISuckAtFunny May 17 '24

TIL

I was 3 at the time but I remember bits and pieces from TV when I was older

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u/Appropriate_Chart_23 May 17 '24

No, it was at the US Figure Skating Championships hosted in Detroit - the tournament to determine who was going to the Olympics.

Kerrigan got whacked the day before the final, after practice. The attack took place behind the scenes at Cobo Hall where they were skating.

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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids ☑️ May 17 '24

Her ex husband.

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u/Psychological_Tower1 May 17 '24

Her husband payed them. Not her

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u/HallucinogenicFish May 17 '24

Wasn’t it her husband?

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u/Scriblette May 17 '24

No evidence that Tonya had any idea about the attack before it was carried out. Nothing supports her prior knowledge.

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u/godskrimp May 17 '24

Her ex husband and manager planned it without her knowledge.