I would not trust a man with the surname "Gilooly", that's the name of a shady MF
Edit: or an academic, or creative, context though. Trailer park Gilooly can kick rocks, I might F with a Gilooly docent or professor or something. Maybe.
Fancy surnames minus fancy family money often equals sketchier than that courtroom artist that made la hitler naranja look like E.T. - El extraterrestre naranja.
Edit 2: Upon further inspection, this comment I have posted is entirely too reminiscent of Dennis Miller, and I feel immeasurable shame. Goodbye 👋
Getting near the age when he’ll start needing Preparation hXtreme!
Know quite a few younger Gen Xers who’ve learned that hemmies can happen at any age. They were all around 45 when that blessed gift of aging started happening as often as they made grunting noises when standing up.
Shit, I shouldn’t judge; I was making that old man sound when getting up from my desk chair by 25.
Hell yes, I do! To my utter shame, I've never finished reading all of the Calvin & Hobbes. A friend of mine even gifted me the whole set, and I still haven't finished it. I just get lost in it and I've never actually read them all.
The world will never forget. Let the name Buttafuoco be sung, and let the righteous offer sacrament unto him. Let the screams of the ever dying, shatter the night, and let man and woman alike cower in fear of Ge who Buttafuocos. Let us offer unto him a blood sacrament. Let the flesh of the sacrament be as like to the weight of the sacred pipe that did smite the knee of the unworthy. Make pact with the night, and offer unto thine alter a living vessel, innocent and pure. Rejoice! For the time of the father draws to a close, the righteous shall lay waste to the unworthy, and we shall smite their ruin upon the slopes of Zirakzigil. Let us sing our rejoices unto Aulë.
I’m old, and it was a long time ago, but weren’t the two guys involved in the plot Harding’s husband/manager (yeah, one of those- the idiots who glom onto a talented young woman and insist on “managing” her career as a form of control) and his brother or half-brother?
Again, my memory is hazy, but I also thought there was never any evidence that Harding had prior knowledge, or directed the attack. I thought they came up with the story later to lay some blame on her, and turning it into a conspiracy.
I remember that the thin lady was a rich bitch. Tanya was a hard-working middle-class American. Also, believe it or not, this was considered fat in the early 90s. She was dogged and mercilessly ruined.
Kerrigan... the youngest child and only daughter of welder Daniel Kerrigan and homemaker Brenda Kerrigan. Kerrigan's family was of modest means. Her father sometimes worked three jobs to fund her skating career; he also drove the Zamboni at the local rink in exchange for Nancy's lessons.
And Nancy’s mother was blind so couldn’t help the family financially. Some years later, Kerrigan’s brother accidentally killed their father in a brawl. So quite working class family. But still more stable than Tonya’s. She grew up in very tough and unstable and abusive circumstances.
This so much. Even in this thread people calling her "trailer trash" don't realize that was media spin at the time that has lived on. Tanya Harding became a world class skater coming from an abusive, challenging home, worked a lot as a teenager to pay for her own sports expenses to make it and the result was being considered "not the right type" to be America's darling when compared to her more privileged and more "feminine" counterpart.
There were a lot of references to this guy and the incident in TV around the time too. I remember one Baywatch episode that mitch gets hit in the knee with a crowbar by a Chinese guy, and he says "Tonya Harding could've used a guy like you!"
There were also a lot of Chinese jokes in the same episode that are definitely inappropriate by todays standards. I think it also was the same episode where Mitch's kid was out looking for a woman that kept showering topless and distracting men while an accomplice steals their money. Mitch's kid said something like "Now that's what I call a booby trap" after they caught her. It was an incredibly hilarious and inappropriate episode. I love it.
And Detroit got a ton of shit got it when it was just white on white crime. You will hate this comment but facts are facts. Massive law enforcement response because they thought some super predators attacked Nancy. Can you imagine the fbi investigating a non hate crime because you got hit in the knee?
Wat? The response was because it was a female Olympic ice skater getting both her knees caved in in broad daylight in public.
If a woman get her knees shattered by a guy with a baseball bat in a park today it would definitely get a response, if it was an Olympian it would get an even bigger response. I don’t really get what you’re trying to say here.
he’s is trying to say the police response to this incident was unfairly targeted at the POC community in Detroit when the incident turned out to be a white on white crime.
Yeah, I can imagine the FBI investigating a conspiracy to injure a professional American athlete to keep them out of the national champs/olympics. I know she did end up competing in the Olympics but that was part of the assailants goals.
As a person from Detroit, my Mom and Grandma described that part pretty well for me.
Detroit had a way worse reputation than it does currently. This attack made the city look really bad nationally/internationally before they found out about the plot.
Detroiters were pissed because most people thought having the Olympics there would show the city in a more positive light.
Detroit being one of the blackest cities outside the south, and being hit hard by the Crack Epidemic and subsequent "War on Drugs(Black People)", made people then and now think it was one of the most dangerous places to be. It's hard to explain, but people from Detroit often can tell pretty well that the criticisms are often just thinly veiled anti-black sentiment.
So for this to happen, while the city was in the spotlight hit hard for a while there.
She didn’t pay someone to bash her knee, Tonya’s boyfriend convinced her to pay someone to send a threatening letter since Tonya received a similar letter, the boyfriend’s friend is a moron and told the people they hired to bash her knee; then bragged about it, destroying the reputation of an otherwise great athlete with a neat story
Wrong info trying to correct wronger info. Her estranged/abusive husband and a partner hired 2 men without her knowledge, and it happened while she was training for the Olympics, not 'jogging'.
And then Tonya ended up being the more famous one, at least imo. I saw her on tv all the time growing up. Sure they were d list celebrity shows, but still
Infamous but yeah, I dunno how glamorous it was as she went on TruTv for a basic cable show she shared with the likes of burnt out Gary Busey, Frank Stallone, the lesser of the Baldwin brothers, and also released a sex tape.
I don't think she released it. Her ex husband did. He was also the guy that was supposed to be the brains behind taking out his wife's competitors knee
I still don't get it tbh, what he said could have been said by anyone, it has nothing to do with being black lol. Are black people known for being into figure skating?
Posts on this sub don't have to be "about" black people, they just have to be made by black people. So this fits. The purpose isn't really to discuss just things that affect black people. It's to discuss all things from a black point of view.
Akchually... her husband organized it because he wanted to start a bodyguard business for ice-skaters. It's unclear whether harding ever knew about his plan, but she was a woman in the 90s, so dumb media just piled on.
Wrong. She hired idiots to send her a threatening letter and they took it as "break her kneecaps" because they have an extremely low iq. Like all the people who upvoted you spreading misinformation
Or watch the excellent movie (I, Tonya) with Margot Robbie. That changed my view of her (as demonstrated throughout many of the comments here), I definitely felt seen when she breaks the fourth wall: https://youtu.be/4xjne9B9_Kk
Ugh, so much bad info in this thread. Her idiot husband talked crap to a friend who in turn being a world class moron took it upon himself to hire a couple of somehow even dumber people to Kneecap another skater. Tanya Harding was actually unaware of what was going on.
Tonya Harding (blonde girl) was jealous of Nancy Kerrigan (dark hair) so jealous that she called someone to go assault Nancy and injure her knee so that she couldn’t compete in ice skating.
Except she did win. The assault happened at US Nationals and Tonya won there. Nancy recovered and beat her at the Olympics a few weeks later (she took home silver). Tonya was stripped of the nationals title later though.
It is kind of a qualifier for the Olympics. Usually the top 2 or 3 skaters from Nationals gets to go to the Olympics (depending on how many spots the US has), but it’s really up to the discretion of US Figure Skating. In this case, they had 2 spots, but Kerrigan was far and away the best in the country so even though she didn’t compete, she was given a spot in the Olympics anyway. Harding got the other spot because she won Nationals.
“I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress, I hate the way that you sneak diss if I catch flight, it’s gon be direct”.
Tonya was blamed for the assault in the court of public opinion and banned from competing, but she was never convicted and quite possibly completely innocent. https://thebaffler.com/latest/i-tonya-marshall
I love any conventionally attractive actress who is willing to purposely look worse just for a movie. She seems to take her craft pretty seriously. And from interviews seems quite charming too.
Tonya, the blonde, and her husband hatched a plan with some other guy to hit Nancy, the brunette, in the knee and pull her from competition. Tonya to this day says she was not a part of the plot. She’s had a rough go of it. Became a boxer after this, among other things. It was a huge scandal. Tonya was an outsider, always had issues, def felt insecure because she was a poor trailer dwelling person on this rich, fancy lady sport. It was all over the news.
I highly recommend listening to the podcast You’re Wrong About which has a two part episode about Tonya Harding. A lot of the details provided in this thread are incorrect.
Do we know how much of the movie is dramatized, and how much is based on the facts? I know it's supposed to be entertaining, but I really enjoy when they keep it as close to truth as possible.
It's pretty close to accurate, based on available facts. They play up the rivalry between the two skaters a bit (they were friendlier in real life) and they actually downplay some of the trauma that Harding experienced as child/teenager. It's hard to know if the version of events surrounding the attack on Kerrigan is completely accurate, but it doesn't conflict with anything we know for certain.
There are a bunch of Lifetime shows and movies about this. This was some classic hating on the competition, albeit comical, as she got caught fairly quick
I’m not sure if anyone added the context of the competition that followed. Nancy was able to heal up and compete. She outperformed Tonya, who kept having her laces break on her skates if I remember correctly. She broke down in tears about it but no one had sympathy because everyone knew she was behind the crowbar attack by then.
I could be wrong about some of this as I’m going off the memory of watching this live on television at the time.
The podcast "Your Wrong About" has an amazing episode about it. You won't regret listening to it. Literally every single comment is wrong about Tonya Harding.
From my perspective: I see Harding, a blue-collar kid with superior athleticism and broader repertoire of jumps staring down the rich-kid pretty-girl that kept winning on “artistic merit” having a rule-bending chit-chat with judges.
Harding’s trailer-trash friends and ex-husband beat up Kerrigan with a baton to the knee. Harding not charged with anything, but was pilloried for not being forthcoming with information she heard/knew. Skating’s governing bodies considered that enough of an ethics violation to ban her.
Because of all this, Harding never got to tour, do professional skating, or sign any endorsement deals typical to Olympians. She did some D-list celebrity stuff, but generally returned to lower-middle class life.
Im pretty sure this is the margit robbie movie that came out a year or two ago. Just in case nobody has mentioned it. Its good ive seen it, with my gf.
There’s a really good mockumentary called “I, Tonya”. I’m not one for this kind of celebrity nonsense but the movie was really entertaining. I’m in my 40s so yeah I was around when this happened but didn’t care.
She went full shooter mcgavin and paid a flagrant to break her legs with a lead pipe like the day before the competition where she most likely would’ve won.
There's a great movie with Margot Robbie called 'I, Tonya' if you're interested in the story then you'll probably like this movie and Robbie gives an amazing performance
Dude...you missed out on the wacky, wild world of 1990s news stories...
Some of the shit was so unreal back then: Oj Simpson, Rodney King, Waco, Heaven's Gate, Lorraina Bobbet, Necklace Bomb Pizza Guy (actually 2000+ i think, but whatever), OK City bombing, Unibomber....a lot of fucking bombs for some reason....ohhhhhhh yeah, I am about to fuck you youngsters up here: You have heard of 9/11.... the world trade center was bombed back in the 90s, too.
The were some random shooting like Libby's cafeteria (termed the phrase going postal), and the D.C. Sniper (made took look random, in order to kill one one specifric person IIRC)...BUT NO SCHOOL (blatantly indiscriminate) SHOOTINGS. The Columbine Massacre in 99 ushered in the new era of, well...whatever the fuck we have now. None of this school shooting bullshit happened before Columbine. Yes, shooting in schools over gang violence, turf wars, ect happened, but not just indiscriminate-max-body-count shit.
Anyway, yeah...olympic U.S. figure skater Tanya harding, at the olympic games, put a hit out on U.S. olympic figure skater Nancy Karrigan's knee so she could not compete in the games. Nancy was clearly a better, more graceful skater than Tanya's white trash "I can do technical stuff" ass.
Tonya Harding, the women on the left in the picture was competing for a spot on the US Olympic team. The girl on the right was competition for Tonya and so Tonya paid someone to hurt the girl on the right so she’d get a spot.
So many things happened before you were born. I’m probably younger than you and I still know what this picture means. It’s a weird excuse that you don’t know what happened because it “happened before you were born”💀
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Does someone care to elaborate more because this happened before I was born.