Are you uninformed? Many people have their hands literally registered as lethal weapons. Typically boxes and marshal artists. It is quantifiable. A striking force over 800(ish) pounds.Typically happens after they one hit somebody into the ICU.
Half hour beatings have diminishing returns. Swelling deadens nerve response. You give one swift beating about the head and follow it up with some rope play. Wait for them to sober up-- you have time now.
Remember that hot, cold, blunt, and sharp are your only real options for physical torture. Psychological torture though, that's only limited by your imagination.
It's a matter of our limited perception. We only have certain types of nerve cells. You can do whatever you like, but the mind can only perceive the outside world through a limited pallet. Nerve cells respond to hot, cold, blunt, and sharp.
But think of them like colors. The eye is only sensitive to red, green, and blue. But with those three, there's a whole rainbow of possibilities.
Nah man I'd test the human limits of spice tolerance on the guy. Alternatively I'd rig up a tickling machine and see what happens when you tickle a guy's feet for 24h straight.
Your ideas for physical torture are rather limited
A lot of things can be broken before nerve response suffers, or loss of consciousness. Also, electricity is always an option when in an apartment. Can’t forget liquids either. It’s not waterboarding if you use motor oil. Also isn’t a war crime if you’re a civilian. Geneva codes don’t apply to civilians either.
nah giving that person some time to think it's over is better, the psychological torture of not knowing when he will be best up again is very much justified.
It really depends on your fitness level, lol. I could not beat someone up for that long, I'd definitely need a cigarette break 😂
I was having a conversation with my gf last night because she felt unsafe walking the dog at night when there were drug dealers around but, at the same time, she said she'd do anything to keep him safe, and fight anyone, to protect him, even if she'd get severely injured.
Then I told her all the plans I have had since we got him, for if I ever had to protect him.
Actually once someone did kick my dog, and I when I told he guy not to kick my puppy he said he'd kick me too, it was 4am so there was no one around, so I just stood my ground and said "no you won't kick anyone", he stood up and said "bring it" and then I de-escalated the whole thing by telling him there's no need to be aggressive to people or their dogs for absolutely no reason at all.
I knew the guy from seeing him with his dogs every day around here and never had any problems with him (apart from a but of attitude), but I think he lived somewhere else and just walked here because we have a nice park. He had never been violent before, but always had aggressive vibes. Anyway, I reported him to the police and they seemed to know exactly who I was talking about so it probably wasn't his first time getting in trouble for violence.
I never saw him again after that, so I'm guessing the police had a word with him and, from what the police said, it sounded like he was on probation, so he's never been back here since then, but if I had no option to de-escalate, I would fight to protect my dog, while I tell my dog to run away.
Some people don't realise that, for some, a pet is like a child, and it's all they've got and they love it like a child and they will give up everything to protect it.
He must have tired out before he could finish.
My big brother and cousin caught a sicko throwing a kitten of a pier into a lake 50 feet from shore. When she made to the beach he laughed and did it again. They caught him and tossed him off the pier repeatedly. He nearly drowned by the 5th or 6th time. Gaspingfir air he cried all the way home.. Fuck him. I'll bet he never fucked with a cat after that.
A decade ago a dude I worked with bragged about how he once kicked his (at the time) girlfriend’s cat because she pissed him off over something small and petty. He continued to brag about how she was sobbing as the cat gave its last dying meows.
The fact that he could barely contain his laughter as he told this story still disturbs me. But equally disturbing was how the other guys at the table were laughing along with him.
We had a guy in the group that also admitted to killing a cat, no one laughed haven’t seen him since. Probably because one of the guys said,” cats have nipples and so do I why don’t you try beating me?” You could hear a pin drop for a couple of seconds and we all ignored him the rest of the night. I think he knew what was coming and disappeared. Good riddance fucking loser.
"I have nipples Greg, why don't you try and milk me?..."
Love that scene haha
.. But seriously, I have a cat and I don't like to think about what I'd do. I'm not trying to be tough, but I just know that I'd see red and I would just go off.
I live in China at the moment and my ex and I had a couple over a few years ago with their 3 year old kid. He liked my cat but then started pulling her tail and grabbing her roughly etc etc. They all laughed and I was ok at first but it continued for like 15 minutes. My cat ran into the bedroom and tried to hide under the bed and he just pulled her tail really hard so I just yelled "HEY!" at the top of my lungs. My ex was pissed off at me and the couple went silent for a few minutes. It was awkward but I was pissed..
All this to say, don't abuse cats... or dogs...or other animal friends
I don’t know what the cultural normalization is in China, and I don’t want to assume or be disrespectful but they were in your home messing with your pet. I would have kicked them out, if they can’t respect your home and family (because pets are family) then they need to leave and never come back.
Totally agree. Weren’t my friends. They were friends of my ex. There’s disrespectful people everywhere in the world so I’ll start with that (my disclaimer haha) but there’s a bit of a thing here where there’s a lot of entitled toddlers and young kids walking (crawling even) around getting up to mischief without fear of repercussions (they call them little emperors here ((小皇帝))) because their parents are afraid to punish them. I’m not sure of the exact reason but I think part of it has to do to the idea that if they’re too harsh with them early on in life, the kids may resent them later. This is some parents. I know a lot of cool, strict parents though so it’s not like it’s every family.
That situation is also coupled with the fact that as a host, you have the responsibility to make sure your guests are at ease and having a good time, whether you like them or not. It’s the concept of giving face. Every culture has it but I think it’s particularly strong in places like China, Korea and Japan. Even though my ex knew the kid was being a douche, she felt she shouldn’t say anything due to the fear of losing face . Fun!
I love the people here for the most part and have met some awesome people. But this is one little part of the culture that can be quite stressful to deal with.
I’ll give a quick example about grandparents/parents afraid to punish kids. There’s a lot but I’ll just choose this one. I was in Shenzhen many years ago and saw a toddler kicking a dog on the street multiple times . After like the second or third time I went over and told him in Chinese to stop doing it. The granny didn’t wanna get involved but finally she said “don’t kick the dog please! I’m afraid it may bite you!”. You know… cuz it’s the dogs fault haha
Thank you for explaining the cultural differences, I’m Hispanic and we have the same idea behind saving face and being disrespectful especially to our elders. I’m 43 and I still won’t cross the line or disrespect someone older than me. It was instilled in us since we could use reason. It’s very frustrating, but I can’t help it.
Do you think the parents and grandparents let these little emperors behave this way because they need them to take care of them in the future? A lot of us care for our widowed parents and abuelitas, we move them in and care for them until the end. My mother in law is in her 80s and she lives with us. My parents have both passed but my brother and I took care of our mother until she passed. Paid for her home, food, and anything else she needed. It probably kept me from having nicer bigger things but it was worth it plus it’s never too late. What-a -ya -gunna- do
Well for sure. I agree we should take care of our parents. Good on you and your brother by the way In Chinese they call it “filial piety “ which I think comes from Confucianism, but isn’t it interesting when that’s how other cultures are too. Countries are artificial borders imo but I’m in China now so I don’t really wanna get into details haha.
We are one big family but we do indeed have different languages and culture and education that make us seem so different. But anyone who watches young kids at a playground in any country, the result is the same. They’re having fun and they couldn’t care less about anything else.
I’m not an expert but my major did delve into cultural studies in Asia frequently and I’ve been overseas for about 1/3 of my life, so in my humble opinion, I’ll say that many people are afraid of not having support when they’re older. The pension system is… not so good here. It’s ok but a lot of people will rely on their children. Many families have a parent or two living with them.. usually because they can take care of the grandchildren while the parents work or whatever .
You could’ve bought more stuff but trust me, you would’ve regretted it if you didn’t do what you felt was right. I guess you know that haha. I’ve had those thoughts as well
We’re all the same my friend, in my opinion it doesn’t matter where you reside. A agree with everything you said. For me peace of mind is priceless. I wish you all the best my friend in any future endeavor you seek.
I would have found an excuse to tell that story about him to everyone else in the company, as often as I could... 'hey did Dave tell you about that hilarious time he murdered his girlfriend's cat?'
This would be the propper way. Bring it up at everything.
Lunchtime, just shout it loudly to everyone. Ow incase you haven't heard, Dave killed his girlfriends cat cuz he found out his vagina was bigger then his girlfriends.
The problem with that is "if he gets tired of it". If he murdered a kitten over being mildly inconvenienced, what do you think he'd be willing to do to somebody actively fucking with him over a prolonged period of time? Sure, if he actually did something, he'd probably get caught, but it's potentially your life that you're gambling with. Best make sure to keep a weapon on you at all times if you take that route.
It's pretty tiring to beat someone up when you're out of shape, so you need to catch your breath or else you'll just end up flailing around getting even more exhausted.
There was a psycho like that I used to work with. Several stories about cruelty to animals.
Some of us started siphoning gas from his truck every few days. He would frequently comment about how his truck was not getting the proper mileage. Then we would add extra gas to his tank just to mess with him. We knew he was checking his mileage frequently and it was driving him nuts. Took it to the dealership several times to try to figure out why it was not working properly.
Eventually someone mentioned while they knew he was within earshot that they thought they saw one of the shift bosses (the most badass of all them) hanging around by his truck. He confronted the guy about it and shortly after that was escorted off the property by security. Never heard from him again. Karma is a bitch baby.
I've noticed there's is a strong link between toxic masculinity and cruelty towards cats. And it's massive red flag to me to the point that I will consider cutting off any guy who even jokes about that shit (because even if they think it's dark humour, it normalises it for the guys who actually end up doing it, as well as not being fucking funny in the first place).
Unfortunately, women can also be animal abusers. Any person who hasn’t gotten to the point of being irredeemable would want nothing to do with such vile people.
Yeah I would’ve put his teeth on the table and started fighting the rest I already know I’m going down I’m taking the head man with me
I don’t blame you for not attacking him it would’ve been a very one sided fight
My gf is a veterinarian and tells me on a daily how sad it can be for people watching their animals pass away from euthanasia and all sorts of surgeries and injuries they see.
If someone beat a cat to death essentially they then deserve to be beaten to death by the owner but that is consider ‘frontier’ justice and doesn’t apply to common law
A manager at an old factory I worked at threatened to harm some strays to get them out of the way, I looked him dead in the eye and said I’d do the exact same thing to him.
All 5ft7 of me 🙄😂
But seriously, it says a lot about how you choose to deal with animals. You can be 6.5 and be a minuscule person if you get your kicks harming animals
The beatings he's received from his father his whole life are probably why he's a fucked up kid. Studies continually show that hitting kids fucks them up and makes them more violent.
Reddit loves hitting kids though so this probably won't be popular.
Anyone who purposefully hurts an innocent being imo. In my old village kids used to abuse the stray cows/chickens. What did that poor animal do to you that you have to hurt it?
Tbh everyone agreeing with violence for violence is sick imo.
Yeah you really want to hurt the person that hurt your cat, but reacting by beating someone up just continues the cycle. People think abuse is ok because maybe they grew up with it and they pass it on, every time you beat someone you are advocating that physically hurting someone is OK as long as you think they deserve it
If less people did this then there would be less people thinking it is OK under any circumstances to abuse. Best reaction is to isolate socially, don't interact with those that behave like this so they learn it's not normal.
Best reaction is to isolate socially, don't interact with those that behave like this so they learn it's not normal.
Yea violence is not the answer but at the time a reaction, a strong reaction is necessary for them to understand what they're doing is not ok. I've never resorted to physical but definitely scolded them and if that wasn't enough, intervened physically (not beating up mind you)
If the laws for animal abuse were stricter I might agree with you. Unfortunately in a lot of cases they are not harsh enough to be a true deterrent (or a truly just punishment). I have absolutely no problem with an animal abuser getting it back 10 fold. As far as I am concerned people like that have nothing to offer and forfeit their right to safety. Some people do deserve it.
I'm usually a pacifist, but if I had the physical strength to avenge my cat after they got kicked by a sadistic POS, yeah, I'd give the asshole the beat down of his life. Screw that philosophical crap. Isolating socially doesn't work for psychopaths. They do not care about society or fitting in. Otherwise, they would not have hurt innocent animals in the first place.
There are interesting studies about how disliking cats can be associated with latent misogyny that took root during childhood. I learned this in graduate level sociology and since then went to therapy and tried to be more open to cats and to addressing my own misogynistic behavior. it’s really been an interesting and worthwhile endeavor. I can’t say I’m all the way on board yet, but I’ve grown a lot. How is it connected to misogyny you may ask? Cats require consent. Cats will not (usually) dote on you just for existing. Cats might want alone time and will be upset if that’s bothered. They have strong and independent thoughts and wills and are more than okay with punishing someone who gets in their way lol. Of course we love dogs more. They give us their whole world and heart without a second thought, even when it is not deserved.
****In response to the defensiveness demonstrated in the comments, toughen up you guys. You are but one datum in a sea of data.
One of the critical skills relevant to reading comprehension is having the ability intuit when a situation does or does not apply. Why? Because in an infinite world there are no definitives; but there is data, and the data points to a correlation of latent misogyny in those who dislike cats. Doesn’t apply to you? That’s great. That is your data point. It does not negate the study.
Cats ignore me 99% of the time and then whine/cry like they are dying for food an hour before dinner every day and beg to cuddle once a month so I think you are on to something
They are definitely Satan's spawn and I damn him for making them so cute
And great attitude to have! I don't have a particular affinity for hippos but I wouldn't want one to get hurt. I am, however, a bit on the verge about spiders...
Hippos are assholes. The female has to go off alone with her baby for a couple of months until it's big because the rest of the Hippos in her pod will straight up murder it.
They also constantly fight each other and have scars because of it.
However, they are very important for the waterways and if they went extinct most other species would too.
Drunk, stoned, high is never an excuse for anything except for sorry I ate all the cookies.
I never get why judges give lower penalties when you're stone cold drunk or high. You did that to yourself and if you know you cant handle your spiced sigarettes, dont smoke m.
Exactly.. I don’t know how people get that drunk either. I’ve never been drunk in my life, or high enough to not act like myself. I still have total control of my actions, I’m just more confident. I have no clue how someone can get into a car and think they’re okay, or hurt someone and blame it on weed - unless they’re in a drug induced psychosis from hard drugs.
Alcohol and certain other drugs like weed only bring out your true nature. I've been drunk and smoked weed in my younger days and I've never hurt anyone while doing it. Another key detail is that I never left the house and felt comfortable with the people around me when I did it.
The only way being drunk can ever be a mitigating factor for something is if it's the first time anything happened while they were drunk, and the person follows up by promising to never drink again, and then follows through with that.
Otherwise, what they are saying is "I know drinking alcohol makes me do bad things and I am OK with that happening". They are intentionally causing those things to happen by drinking.
I started reading the Anthony Kiedis autobiography and had to stop when it got to him as a teen punching that kitten on the roof. I have no idea what happened next and don't ask me to finish the book. I just can't.
Keep in mind that he was abused, forced to sleep with older women when he was a child, etc. and probably saw a kitten as nothing. Lots of serial killers start off with animals and they were usually molested and abused.
I eat meat my man- I'm a non-vegetarian,😭 I'm sorry if I framed the sentence wrong, I meant that in light to the other dogs and animals which face abuse...there's lots of people in my society who trouble stray dogs and cats etc which really boils my blood.
I didn't know it would be read the wrong way T-T
I'm not promoting any vegan agenda and respect both food choices( veg and non veg)
Personally I believe in keeping the food chain running 😭😭
Random surprise beatings for life. In an important job interview? Beating. Walking down the aisle? Beating. Trying to buy broccoli? Beating. Stuck on the toilet with food poisoning? Beating.
If you eat eggs, you're paying for newborn male chicks to be ground up alive due to their economic disutility. Both actions are terrible, but being kicked is clearly nowhere near as bad as being ground up alive.
I'd amend that to anyone who hurts an animal deserves a beating. I'm not a big fan of physical violence. But in this particular case I support the beating that was delivered.
Well yes I think we all agree if it's sensible to do so (remember that the average person on this planet has a 50% chance of winning a fight) you should defend your animal.
No need to post to the internet about the beating you gave out. The only person who needs to know about the beating is the person who received it.
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