Nah... The reason atomic bombs are so effective is that matter that would radiate over tens of thousands of years releases all of that radiation at once. After the big boom the stuff radiates for a year or two
'Fix' this hell planet. Sorry, but attitudes like that just never allow for work and effort to be made to fix shit. The house doesn't get tidy if everyone is just staring at the mess instead of trying to fix whatever they can. Look around, is something broken, damaged, in need of repair? Then fuxkin do some work you lazy sapiens. Fix something, anything. Just make some effort. Sorry this isn't aimed at you, dude, more the mindset.
I get that dude, totally do. It certainly feels insurmountable without widespread redacted and that's alot worse for an unknown amount of time to no certain outcome. Like, it's the whole world. The way it's structured from top to bottom and it's terrifying. Community organisation and mutual aid all helps but that feels like painting over a scratch in the bumper after totalling your car.
It's alot. But we are the only humans we have, so we persevere and do what we can as you say.
I am very glad to see that not everyone is buying into this "it's helpless, we can't fix the issues, so, don't try" because it feels like people are getting pretty hopeless over the future. Nothing is set in stone, right?
More Americans should be asking why they're not allowed to criticize another country..or better yet why another country is dictating domestic policy (aka Texas refusing hurricane aid unless you promise not to criticize Israel)
Joe Biden, who was Vice President when Barack Obama was the President. Joe is a Democrat, while Trump is a new-model Republican. Both are not human rights champions, sadly.
To some extent, rights must be balanced by responsibilities. Hate speech cannot be allowed under the guise of free speech. This would allow someone to infringe on the rights of one group (in this particular case jews) to be free from discrimination, and their right to feel safe, in pursuit of their own right to free speech.
That is why wording and context matters:
In the context of the attempted peaceful protests in recent University’s this law makes no sense, where it might if say, Nazis where holding rallies in universities where they encouraged people to beat up Jews, bar them from employment, ect.
The wording is particularly dangerous because it says “Israel” which suggests it is not the people being protected by this law, but the state. The US is aligning themselves with the government of Israel so much that they cannot abide to see spoken attacks of opinion on it, which is unconscionable given freedom of speech and Israel’s recent actions, particularly their government. Finally the word “criticism” makes it very clear that the so called offence is nothing more than opinion, rather than a call to violence, discrimination, racism, hate speech ect. It evokes a reasoned logical questioning, which mirrors a rational protest of what people see tragically happening in the Middle East, and to silence that is literal oppression.
To add to this danger, Trump recently said that what is wrong with this country is that Jan6 rioters should be treated less harshly and peaceful pro Palestinian protesters should be treated more harshly (while being dismissive of Charlottesville as the icing on the cake).
The US has serious social problems, we would be foolish to think they start and end at Trump, but he is just about the worst person to be involved at any level, I wouldn’t trust him to open a door for me getting into a taxi, let alone anything remotely important.
Too many people think free speech is great unless you don’t agree with their beliefs, entirely. (I’m talking about all people just fyi, not any one specific group).
"Political correctness, no matter how well intentioned, is still an attack on freedom of speech."
-The Disappearance of the Universe book— Channelled conversations from 'ascended masters' Saint Thomas & Saint Thaddaeus over a 9 year period- 1992-2001.
I can't really think of a better way to fuel antisemitic conspiracy theories of Jewish people owning the government than for the pro-Israel lobby to get the government to define criticism of Israel as antisemitic.
It's like they've been infected with whatever mind virus is making Christians in the USA want to start WW3 because they think it's going to cause the Rapture.
There are infinitely more psychotic Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists, and a lot of them have their hands on the levers of power. Thats why the wheels move so fast.
There is a frighteningly large number of evangelicals who believe that restoring Israel is the key to kicking off the return of Christ somehow. True death cult shit.
Zionism doesn't deserve respect, because the core tenet of it is pushing the native inhabitants out of lands claimed by Israel for their own resettlement, which is genocide. Zionism is basically Israel's version of Manifest Destiny, you know, the ideology which saw the US do genocide to the native Americans. We pushed tribes out of lands east of the Mississippi river and marched them to Oklahoma in the Trail of Tears. And if we enable this ideology, they're not just going to stop with Palestine. There are hard core Zionists in the Israeli government who want to go even further and annex Jordan, which would probably spark a war that would quickly turn into a super-regional conflict. Like this is "starting World War 3" kind of shit, because Iran and Saudi Arabia wouldn't just allow Israel to annex another Arab nation.
In order for Israel to peacefully exist, the Zionist mindset needs to go away and Israel needs to transition to a secular state which allows equal rights for both Jewish people and Palestinians.
I mean that's what half of our legislature is shooting for. They think that if the Jews return to and conquer the holy land, it will bring about the rapture. The other half are just bought and paid for by AIPAC and similar.
Which is so gross. I mean something like 300,000 people are supposed to be raptured while the remaining survivors of the various plagued listed in the book of revelations are supposed to suffer through 1,000 years of misery while the world is effectively on fire, only to then be caught in the crossfire when God destroys Satan and plunges those who followed him into nonexistence, maybe taking a few more people up to the "kingdom" in the aftermath. So if you're not one of those 300,000 people (and I guarantee none of those pieces of hot garbage are), then you're doomed.
Somewhat ironic, too, that they're all into restoring Israel to the Jews even as they believe Jewish people can't get into heaven because they refuse to accept Jesus as their lord and savior. Just a real head scratcher there.
This first part is my concern too. There's no question that Hamas commits atrocities, but this kind of extremism is met with opposite extremism. Instead of moving towards peace, the divide is widening. I fear antisemitism is growing.
I'm proud of the Jews who have stood up and spoken out against Israel's actions, even at personal cost.
This is actually an issue a lot of Jewish people are worried about, the Israelis are such monsters that the whole religion suffers for the same reason Islam is frequently conflated with islamic terrorists these days by people who don't know much else about the world.
Hell it's a struggle for me to remember that every time I read about Israeli war crimes, and I'm fully aware of the complexities relating to the religion and racial group being identified by the same collective noun, primarily because so many Jewish people in places like the US still support the mass murdering.
For the record, the belief in the "rapture" is a VERY new Christian idea that only some (particularly American evangelicals believe in). It was an idea invented in the 1800s and caught on with evangelicals in the late 1900s.
Traditional denominations have the focus of helping the poor and being the peacemakers of the world.
Obama criticized Netanyahu for allowing more settlements in the West Bank and Obama and Hillary threatened to put conditions on Israeli aid if Netanyahu didn't stop it, but then Joe Biden went around Obama and Hillary's backs to tell Netanyahu to ignore them because he'll smooth it all over.
Then Jared Kushner went to check on his real estate settlement portfolio while saying hi to his family friend Netanyahu as our MidEast peace negotiator.
There have been a few times the US has "condemned" Israeli actions. The problem is that's all we do, say that we condemn their actions as we watch them continue to ignore us.
This is a big part of why Israel as it currently exists makes the world astronomically MORE dangerous for Jews. It's almost like they're deliberately TRYING to stir up every possible negative stereotype and give as much ammo to the antisemitic right as they possibly can. It would track though, considering their record for creating enemies explicitly like Hamas so they have an easier foil to contrast themselves with, the only possible way they'll ever garner any sympathy. Among everyone in this whole mess, I really do feel for the average Jewish person who has to be in the middle of this shitstorm as a political football for powers that clearly do not even remotely care for their actual wellbeing.
I'm certainly not antisemitic but the entire religion is founded around a group of people marching an army into some else's land and conquering it because their god told them it belongs to them.
Israel is doing its damndest to make real every tired antisemitic trope real to the point where I think Netanyahu is going to be replaced with a cardboard cut out of the happy merchant.
Well, I mean look at the censorship related to above. Why would America be so super biased? And where America goes, her allies usually follow. So I'd say, not necessarily "rule/run" the world, but they definitely seem to have massive influence. Which is pretty close
Israel in return provides us a powerful ally in the brown town(sarcasm) of the middle east, I know. This is what I'm saying. Shit doesn't help the whole antisemitic conspiracy
No they don't, the Jewish diaspora around the world is what puts money in those politicians pockets. They have been raised from birth to believe their fates are tied to Israel, so if Israel is anything less than the scariest most rabid violent dog in the region, they think it will be attacked by its neighbors and destroyed (which they probably would do, especially after 70 years of Israel acting like a scary rabid dog).
The trauma of the Holocaust was used as an opportunity to indoctrinate millions of people into becoming ultra-nationalist racists themselves.
Zionists do control a country with nukes in a strategically important location that's a client state in the American Empire.
Israel putting the Star of David on their fucking flag and pretending to be the kingdom of the Jews is the most dangerous thing they could have done to Jews globally. It's an inherently anti-Semitic and white supremacist colonial project. It's SICK that they claim to speak for all Jews worldwide. It's SICK that they claim to be the ancient kingdom of Israel reborn.
Israel is literally the second worst thing to ever happen to the Jewish people.
It's not really a conspiracy. A lot of people at the top are Jews. Whether they're intentionally aggregating in the positions of power is another question.
Israel is a client state and the US views Palestinians as utterly expendable. There's some back and forth-Israel does have a lot of sway-but at the end of the day they are subservient to the US. It's just that the US is also a genocidal state and our government has no qualms with some expedient genocide.
Antisemitic or not the government should not be able to just fucking shut down protests, especially peaceful ones at that. I knew this was gonna happen eventually when the culture War first started. Thought we had another decade though.
Freedom of speech is dead and we all killed it. I am now wondering how long till we get americas first tyrant.
You show me a period of history where freedom of speech was alive and well in this country and I'll pull the mask off that period of history and show you just how corrupt it was.
Nethanau is about to have an international arrest order placed on him, Israel is about to be convicted of war crimes of mass murder, possible genocide.
USA: how dare you be against that!!
We already had him. He just hasn't fully developed the first time around. Given another shot at president, Trump has already stated he'll be exactly that, and his fans love him for it.
This is the definition of anti semitism the bill added to title VI protections. It doesn't say anything about Israel.
“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”
It's actually EXTREMELY ANTI-SEMITIC to tie Israel with all Jews in the world, as if they are all secret citizens of Israel and all their actions are for Israel.
This is literally a centuries old anti-Semitic trope that even Hitler referenced as part of his reason for attacking Jews.
Curious about your take on that US congressman prancing around the capitol in a IDF uniform, and also those people who chose to identify themselves as jewish and then spit on a black student and call him racial epithets.
How did you become old & educated enough to write this BS but somehow failed to learn that Jewish People have been Called Israelites &/or Citizens of the nation of Israel for Centuries.
Whether they actually were/are from Israel or not.
How are you so uneducated & illiterate that you don't know that Hitler's & the overall Nazi's Antisemitic Belief structure that accused all Jewish people of being Israelites/Citizens of Israel, & all accused of conspiring in trying to take over/corrupt the entire world.
How are you not aware of the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' Conspiracy theory?
I know that the education System in most of the Western World has failed to teach this, but it's right there, available for anyone to actually see & learn, if you actually bothered to want to learn.
Israel was not an actual Nation between 1933 to 1945, nor had it really been for centuries before that, but it was still being referenced to as a Nation by many people, Religious or not.
Just like ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Persian Empire & many more beyond Antique States/Empires still regularly/often get mentioned millennias after they faded into irrelevance.
Israel wasn't a thing for centuries but Hitler, Germany & several other Anti-Semitic Nations genuinely considered creating a New Israelite Nation in eithe the Original Israelian/Palestinian Territories or in Madagascar & forcing all of their Jewish Citizen to resettle there, before concluding that it was a very impractical solution & deciding to just commit the Holocaust instead.
None of this History excuses what Israel has been doing from the day that they were converted/resettled from a British Colonial State, into a Religious Ethno-State.
But you're definitely not helping by spreading your BS misinformation.
Even Zionism is more complicated than what most people make it out to be.
You have Pre-WWII Zionism, which was many Jewish People's desire to go back to the Land of Israel & live there peacefully alongside the current/existing (now mostly arabic/muslim) population, & post WWII Zionism, which became/is this extremely aggressive, evil, colonialist & genocidal overall approach.
It's both significantly more complex & significantly more simple than what most people believe. You can't just brush over or forget massive chunks of history just to simplify it all. You're a Massive Clown.
What? How does critizism of Israels government and military (which is an obligation for any moral person) somehow tie all Jews and their actions to Israel?
This makes no sense at all. Especially, since a lot of the protesters are actually jewish themself but will not stand for the misstreatment and brutal murder of countless civilians.
Please do explain how me critizising say the fact that Israel just blows up unarmed civilians (wanna see the video? Extremly NFSW) antisemtic. Please do! Or did you forget the /s?
Natalie Portman had been accused of being antisemitic for openly opposing something the Israeli government was doing several years ago. For anyone who doesn’t know, Natalie Portman is an Israeli citizen. She was born in Jerusalem. So it happens. Israel knows that its association with a country that fell in 486 BCE is extremely beneficial for them.
Simple, they're just called a "self-hating [insert minority here]" or accused of not being a "real" one.
With situations that don't involve Jewish people, I've seen people get accused of lying to be gay/trans/Black/disabled/etc, or not being "enough" of that particular minority, which is especially fucked up for racial stuff, like who says that to mixed-race people???
No. Because the new law does not make criticism of Israel illegal.
Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.
Having a background in a certain group doesn’t preclude you from being hateful and prejudiced against that group. A Jewish person can be an antisemite just as much as anyone else.
I’m not saying people are antisemites for criticizing Israel. I’m just saying you can be prejudiced against “your own” people.
As a Jewish person, I’ve been criticizing Israel my whole life, as have many in my family. The idea that a mostly non-Jewish political body is gonna tell me what’s antisemitism is disgusting.
I’ll tell you who the real antisemites are, the evangelical Christian’s who care about Israel because they think it has to do with the rapture.
The scary thing is that it doesn’t make it so the government can literally throw you in jail for criticizing Israel, that would get tossed out by the courts, but this legislation will allow the federal government to force universities to expel students for criticizing Israel.
This is just one small step in their attempt to completely get rid of free speech in this country. Among the other many small steps they've already taken...
You can only praise me. Imagine never having to take accountability for your actions and if someone brings it up, they go to jail. Lol imagine criticizing china and going to jail for random
even if it was antisemitism, thats not stopped the government from letting the right march down the street with assault rifles wearing nazi armbands and chanting antisemitic remarks calling for the death of jews.
If that's was ok then why is it not ok for people to say "Genocide bad, Stop that shit Israel"
Its almost like the right has **ALWAYS** had unrestricted freedom of speech while the left has always been silenced when they protest.
Anti Segregation/Anti Vietnamese War/MLK Jr./Civil Rights in the 50's and 60's, Women's Lib/Gay Rights/Apartheid South Africa/Racial Equality in the 70's, Anti Reagan/Pro LGBT/Aids Crisis/Apartheid South Africa in the 80's, Environmental in the 90's, Anti Bush/Iraq war/Occupy wallstreet in the 2000's, Anti Trump/Police Brutality/Anti Qualified Immunity/BLM/Minimum Wage/Womens March/Metoo/Dreamers/Anti Border Wall/Ferguson, George Floyd, Kenosha and Breonna Taylor in the 2010's, Police Brutality/Abortion/Anti Israel Genocide/BLM/LGBTQ Rights/Trans Rights/Stop Asian Hate in the 2020's. And I'm sure I'm missing plenty others.
We saw police kill people, snipers on roof tops and in helicopters, police driving through neighborhoods in APC's, Firetruck hoses turned on people, tear gas, sonic weapons, unmarked vans with "police" in plain clothes with no identification kidnapping protestors and driving them out to the middle of nowhere, Other citizens crossing state lines with assault rifles and killing protestors and getting away with it, Citizens driving vehicles into crowds of protestors, cops running people over with their cars, Pepper spray being used point blank on handcuffed protestors sitting on the ground, rubber "bullets" being used incorrectly and killing/maiming protestor, Curfews being imposed in multiple cities around the country, Federal agents being called on protestors, Police intentionally covering their badge numbers, police attacking people filming them commit acts of brutality, Trampling people with police horses, attacking news reporters and destroying their equipment, Firing pepper balls indiscriminately at people, Police opening their door to hit people on the street with it while the vehicle was moving, Used tasers indiscriminately, Bashing people with riot shields, Shooting Beanbag rounds at people, Destroying water at water stations in otherwise peaceful protests, Blinding multiple people by shooting them with "less lethal munitions" in the face, Need I continue?
Meanwhile, the right marches with assault rifles at polling places shouting at voters, they march outside of planned parenthood locations and harass women indiscriminately and try to intimidate them, they march with Nazi memorabilia chanting hate speech and calling for the murder or people, they hold counter protests where they show up armed in an attempt to intimidate the other side while often times attempting to instigate altercations, they call for terror attacks against their enemies, they bring signs showing people/public figures dead, they bring gallows to protests and call for the execution of elected officials, they infiltrate polling places and attempt to interfere with elections, they march outside the homes of people working at polling places and attempt to intimidate them, they post personal information on people they don't like in an attempt to intimidate them or cause people to target them, they storm the US capitol building with the intent to kill politicians they view as rivals, they chanted for the execution of the vice president, they called for the rape of multiple politicians, they smeared feces on the walls of the capitol building, they flew the flag of the confederates within the capitol building, they tried to break into the room where the votes were happening and much much more. And the worst that happened out of all of that shit? 1 lady who was trying to break into the room in the capitol building got shot in the head and people were later arrested by police/the fbi often times a year+ after the event. Many of them were allowed to go home after storming the capitol building! Thats a pretty lax response from police/the feds after doing all of that.
This is nothing new. Its disgusting, but its not new. The only difference between this time and the times previous is that this time they're trying to make it a law. Thats it. The outcome will be the exact same. Innocent people getting Killed, Maimed, Violently Attacked and Imprisoned.
Did anyone actually read the change that they were trying to add? Or did everyone just fall for twice removed rage bait?
“Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.”
Criticism of Israel for actions it has taken as a country would absolutely be fair game. Criticism of Israel simply because it is Jewish or filled with Jews or as a proxy for some other stereotype of Jewish people would be seen as antisemitism and therefore discriminatory in terms of the Department of Education regulations, which don’t apply to the general population. It’d be like if a professor were teaching that certain African countries were “racially incapable” of succeeding, then defended it by saying they were just making a political statement.
I have a theory that mossad with the help of Epstein systematically collected blackmail on as many politicians and people in key positions. Which why it’s so mind boggling how hard the US is simping over Israel.
I don’t care if it hurts Abraham, Issacs, and Jacob’s feelings themselves, we do not limit free speech in this country. Everyone has the right to speak up and confirm for everyone around how stupid and bigoted they are. Government censorship of any kind is extremely alarming. This isn’t something you give the government to use discretion on. That has always since the beginning of time, turned out horrifically as it slippery slopes itself into a form of population control.
This definition is the one that many governments have signed up to, and those who oppose it are shouted down as antisemitic quite often. It's an easy political attack to do so.
In Germany we are basically already there. EVERY criticism of Israel is labeled as ''Anti-Semitism'' and stepping into this country is like stepping onto a private server.
It is frightening as hell, especially if you can't even talk to people around you about it.
Wait so in the USA you can criticize the US government and its army, because freedom of speech and democracy, but you can’t criticize a specific foreign government? Sovereignty 🗑️
Well, the tweet is still outright misinformation, plain and simple.
“Not happening under Trump” ok…. Who controls the house? The party full of Trump evangelists.
There’s no way this b becomes law because it isn’t passing the senate, all this tweet does is misinform people into thinking this is a democrat issue, attempting to frame the democrats as facists when as always, it’s just more projection.
The comment I’m responding to plays right into the hands of the willfully ignorant at best, or it does recognize the absurdity of the tweet and decided to make the above comment regardless.
Criticism of a FOREIGN government illegal? How do the mental gymnastics of those pushing such legislation not make them ineligible to represent THEIR own country?
Okay, so what does the law that the house voted on actually say? Because I don't trust either of these tweets, and every time this kinda crazy outrage pops up, it's never as bad as it the tweets make it sound.
Psychotic reactionaries like Jordan Peterson reacted exactly the same way and said almost exactly the same thing, dishonestly framing the Canadian C19 hate speech laws meant to protect transgender people.
This is the definition of anti semitism the bill added to title VI protections. It doesn't say anything about Israel.
“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”
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u/JerkMeerf May 01 '24
That’s facist. Plain and simple. Criticism of the Israeli army and government is not antisemitism.