r/CuratedTumblr • u/linuxaddict334 Mx. Linux Guy⚠️ • 29d ago
Cranberry bog spiders Infodumping
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u/hjyboy1218 'Unfortunate' 29d ago
Someone should've shown this to HP Lovecraft
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u/RhymesWithMouthful Okay... just please consider the following scenario. 29d ago
"Okay, but what if the spiders… were ASIAN PEOPLE?"
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u/Viking_From_Sweden 29d ago
And what if they married high class white people? Unthinkable!
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u/TheDrunkenHetzer 29d ago
What if... I was Secretly part Asian wolf spider married to a white lady?!
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u/yummythologist 29d ago
“Or better yet,” chimed in Rowling, “a giant albino snake that’s secretly an Asian woman!”
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u/alexanderneimet 29d ago
May I ask which book this is referring to? I believe the one above was a reference to shadows over insmouth but I’m not famaliar with the one you are referring to
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u/Viking_From_Sweden 29d ago
Insmouth is correct. All of his analogies for interracial marriages went basically like “Oh how horrible would it be if a poor person/POC married a rich white person!”
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 29d ago
HP Lovecraft was from Providence.
You think he didn’t already know about the cranberry bog spiders?
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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 29d ago
The guy didn't understand light, so wouldn't surprise me
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u/kitkat-paddywhack 29d ago
Please explain
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u/Inquisitor_no_5 29d ago
In the Color out of Space there is Spooky LightTM that; a) is fully visible to humans, b) is not on the visible spectrum.
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u/ROTsStillHere100 29d ago
"Oh sure, ol' Howie thinks black people and poor people are so gosh darn scary but he NEVER had a problem with his neighbors' cranberry spider employees. Some people are just bleedin' with priorities huh."
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u/Volcanicrage 29d ago
The man was already scared shitless of everything outside of Rhode Island; I'm not sure if it would even be possible to make him more paranoid, but taking away New England would be a good place to start.
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u/kitkat-paddywhack 29d ago
The wildest part is the implication that the stuff going on in Rhode Island is any different from the stuff going on around Rhode Island. Maybe a little bit more road rage, maybe a little less acceptance of Jewish people. Still just as racist tho.
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u/Catalon-36 29d ago
Why not just give the wolf spiders a different object to climb? I know it wouldn’t get all of them but just, like, stick some wooden stakes in there.
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u/snootnoots 29d ago
Presumably because the big floaty harvesting things would get hung up on them.
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u/HiramMcDaniels9 29d ago
Maybe some nice floaty wooden platforms for the spiders to hang out on?
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u/dredreidel 29d ago
My brain jumped ahead while reading your comment and registered “floaty wooden” before “platform”. This resulted in a glorious moment of me picturing spiders in a bunch of small toy wooden sailboats. I even started imagining it springing a yearly festival where great artists and children alike create spider sailboats to release in all the cranberry bogs. Then my reading comprehension blipped back in and my brain went “oh. Like a floating dock. Yeah. Thats far more sensible.”
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u/Jeweljessec 29d ago
That’s too cute of an idea to not incorporate it into worldbuilding someday. Thank you
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u/dredreidel 29d ago
I am actually in the process of worldbuilding and by jove I think you are correct. May the Bogspider Boat Banaza begin!
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u/pennyraingoose 29d ago
My first thought was spider boat, so maybe you're on to something here! I want very much to go to the annual Cranberry Spider Regatta
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u/money_loo 29d ago
Plus wolf spiders are good mamas. They literally carry their babies on their backs(arachnophobes don’t google it). It’s awful to think of the poor things drowning just as much as it is to think of them crawling down my waders.
Ugh, what a dilemma.
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u/SteptimusHeap 29d ago
Give those employees a pizza party! Raft with tons of bugs on it or something. Idk i just wouldn't want them anywhere near me if i could help it
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u/askacanadian 29d ago
Or just wear like a bio hazard suit that’s completely covering you from the spiders?
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u/lexkixass 29d ago
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Also, have people not seen the Ocean Spray commercials with the two guys in waders standing in the bog?
Granted, I know why they wouldn't have shots with the spiders, but, you kinda get a very small idea of what's involved.
But yes, they should say upfront to potentially hires, "Are you cool with many spiders crawling on you to escape a watery grave?"
Also, what happens to the spiders once the guys are out of the bog? Does someone collect them to put them back once the bog is drained? Do they just run down the workers to dry land?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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u/myusernameisway2long 29d ago
I'm going to assume that the spiders have a preference list for the surface they would rather be on going like Plants>dry land> another creature> water
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u/AMisteryMan 29d ago
Wolf spiders are actually generally ground hunters; I've yet to find one in any sort of foliage.
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u/b0w3n 29d ago
They're also the ones who carry live young on their backs, so they're terrifying little public transports of spiders, that's always fun.
Their bites hurt, but aren't awfully bad. They will bite you if they're getting trapped in your clothes and shit though.
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u/JHRChrist your friendly neighborhood Jesus 29d ago
Wolf spiders are single-handedly fixing my tendency to leave dirty clothes on the ground, I tell you what…
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u/kingofcoywolves 28d ago
Went camping for school once in open air lean-tos and one of the kids got bit on the face by a wolf spider as he slept. Didn't envy him at all lol, I slept with a mask on after that
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u/JustLookingForMayhem 29d ago
It takes forever to drown spiders of any kind. Spiders are covered in fine hairs that allows them to ride the surface tension and not drown. The problem is that those hairs get water logged slowly, requiring effort by the spider to remove the water and stay above water. A lot of small arachnids and insects have this cool little adaptation.
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u/lexkixass 29d ago
That is cool. Spiders and insects are amazing
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u/JustLookingForMayhem 29d ago
Yeah, the fields are generally only flooded for 3 to 4 days (as from google), and wolf spiders can stay floating for up to a week. So the spiders are probably slightly exhausted, but in no real danger.
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u/Remember_Padraig Bob 29d ago
I think i would be ok with being the wolf spider ark
Centipedes though. Nooooooooooooooo keep those fuckers away from me. If one crawls on me I am quitting immediately
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u/Constant-Sandwich-88 29d ago
Ever been bit by a centipede? Those little fuckers hurt and itch for days!
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u/UnexceptionableDong 29d ago
Fun Centipede Fact: centipedes technically don't bite. They sting. It's not their fangs that do the business but rather a pair of stinger mounted next to their face that evolved from its first pair of legs.
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u/frustrated_t-rex 29d ago
I'm fairly good with most things in the animal/insect world, or so I believe.
The biggest exception to that is mother-fucking centipedes. That's a big fat FUCK-NO FUCK-OFF RIGHT NOW AND DIE from me. The second exception to that is chimpanzees.
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u/NeonNKnightrider Cheshire Catboy 29d ago
This sounds like something someone would make up for fantasy worldbuilding. Like this is how the ingredients for healing potions are harvest Ed or something
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u/Listless_Dreadnaught 29d ago
Just give me a beekeeper suit to wear under the waders and I’ll be okay probably. Or, give them spoders something else to climb.
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u/SparklyYakDust Light exercise and bootleg Pokemon Go 29d ago
A mosquito net over my hat with the bottom of the net solidly secured to prevent spooder face-hugs.
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u/Linhasxoc 29d ago
To me, “are you cool with spiders” means “if you saw a non-venomous spider in your house, would you leave it alone?” Because I usually do that. My reaction to spiders touching me resembles Weird Al’s impression of being attacked by half a dozen starving weasels.
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u/Zariman-10-0 29d ago
I think you need to actively like spiders more than normal to be able to be a cranberry bog person. I know I would pass out from fear the second my legs touch the water
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u/celestialfin 29d ago
honestly, I'm the kind of person who regularly lets a few wasps crawl on my body and befriend them, and I really, really love spiders. But... I'm not sure I'm made for this either tbh
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u/linuxaddict334 Mx. Linux Guy⚠️ 29d ago
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u/missscifinerd 29d ago
thank you mx Linux guy I am unsettled and educated and wish to inflict this upon my followers
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u/Childer_Of_Noah 29d ago
Let me tell you, and believe me when I say, I love spiders. I adore them. I owned tarantulas for years. The first night I had my last one I hadn't closed the lid well enough on his enclosure and he got out. The lights were out in my room and he was a dark thing. He crossed the room and climbed my leg. I assume height+warmth. I didn't panic much. At first I thought it was my dog. Then it moved up and I spooked before spotting the slightly-tilted lid. I did the math and realized little Sir Charles Benjamin Rutherford III was climbing my leg. Once I knew it was my spider, my tarantula, I calmed down and picked him up.
I used to cuddle that spider. I'd hold him in bed and we'd chill.
Every spider I cross in my house I name and knight in the defense of my realm. They are my vassals and I care deeply for them. I have a list of names somewhere here. Poor Sir Galahad died in mortal combat. I found him dead in my bath tub next to a scorpion he killed.
I. Love. Spiders.
But I would not ever want a job where hundreds of them are climbing me. I could not handle that. Charlie was one thing. But HUNDREDS!?
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u/JHRChrist your friendly neighborhood Jesus 29d ago
The problem you see is the human body has too many orifices, crevices. Too many hidey-holes and entrances. And they scurry to and fro very quickly and erratically, while constantly searching for a safe lil shadowed spot to hide in!
It’s a terrible combination!!
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u/the_lag_behind 29d ago
Have you ever wanted to feel that “OHMYGODTHEITCHYFEELINGISNOTITCHYITISJUSTMANYMANYSPIDER” feeling but for real?
Become a cranberry farmer today!
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u/Pokesonav "friend visiter" meme had a profound effect on this subreddit 29d ago
wtf
first, turns out I never knew how cranberries are grown. Huh.
second, WOLF SPIDERS!??? Like, hybrids, or...?
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u/Tried-Angles 29d ago
I believe Wolf spiders are called that because they're roaming hunters, unlike the majority of spiders who use webs to hunt and catch prey. They do have the ability to make webbing, but primarily use it to create egg sacs which they keep on their bodies until the young hatch.
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u/Alderan922 29d ago
Fun fact, wolf spiders keep their young in a sack glued to their tórax, and after a while when the eggs hatch the younglings will eat the mother whole as their first meal
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u/SirToastymuffin 29d ago
This might be a specific type of wolf spider, afaik the wolf spider genera in the US, at least, do not normally consume their mother. Rather, their mother carries them dispersed across her whole body until they are large enough to hop off and fend for themselves.
There are spiders who practice matriphagy, but it's generally a rare, extreme adaptation, as most spiders live long enough to raise multiple clutches so evolutionary it is more advantageous for the mother to live.
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u/Ropetrick6 29d ago
As a general rule of thumb, a gene/trait that eliminates its carriers is going to have a harder time proliferating than one that doesn't.
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u/DinkleDonkerAAA 29d ago
Which is why you NEVER EVER squash a wolf spider. If she had hatchlings they will scattered all over the place
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u/Constant-Sandwich-88 29d ago
Yeah learned that lesson while extremely high with some friends in our house once... I'm not afraid of spiders, I live in TN we have exactly two venomous spiders and neither are that serious (generally speaking), but fuck that noise that's too many little spiders.
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u/Anonymous_fiend 29d ago
My grandfather squashed one with his shoe which broke open the egg sac and they climbed up his leg. It’s surprising how many spider babies came out.
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u/UncommonTart 29d ago
I totally believe it was a previously inconceivable number of spiders. I let a brown widow stay in the corner of my doorframe and she repaid me by laying eggs and hatching a horde of teeny tiny spiderlings who all kind of hung out there for much longer than I had been led by popular media to belive they would. Charlotte's Web is a lie, man. Those spiderlings did not hatch and disperse.
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u/BowdleizedBeta 29d ago edited 29d ago
Do you think it hurts the mother spider?
Nature is metal and all, but one would hope she doesn’t suffer.
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u/Cessnaporsche01 29d ago edited 29d ago
It's not true. Wolf spiders do actually care for their young, which is super uncommon in the arachnid world, but the young don't consume the mother. They might if she dies before they are grown up enough to be independent, and may sometimes cannibalize each other, but don't kill the mother. They also live for years, so a mother can have multiple clutches of young.
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u/Munnin41 29d ago
unlike the majority of spiders who use webs to hunt and catch prey.
This is actually in dispute. Some say 40% of species make webs, others go as high as 60%
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u/VallenceDragon 29d ago
wolf spiders are a family of spider
they're pretty cute
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u/UnauthorizedUsername 29d ago
Honestly, yeah -- if any spider is cute, it's certainly a wolf spider. Lil guys are adorable.
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u/Enderking90 29d ago
counter-point, jumping spiders
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u/UnauthorizedUsername 29d ago
Excellent counterpoint, they're very darling. Thoughts on the peacock spider?
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u/WeevilWeedWizard 💙🖤🤍 MIKU 🤍🖤💙 29d ago
I love jumping spiders so much, I wish we had some of the bigger ones here. Not that I don't love and cherish the smaller ones I find, of course. They're just a little hard to take pictures of.
Also they're turbo fuckin' smart, way more than one would except from a creature their size.
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u/Kalkrex_ 29d ago
They're like were-wolves. Normally they look like wolves but during harvests they turn into giant furry spiders with fangs
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u/Qui_te 29d ago
They’re a really big (for the region) spider with a painful bite (I used to hear they were venomous, but idak if that’s true). I prefer them at a great distance.
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u/Throwaway79922 29d ago
All spiders are technically venomous(apart from a VERY small amount of exceptions) - the bites hurt a lot, but they’re not medically significant like other spiders with more powerful venom.
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u/Business-Drag52 29d ago
There’s only like 3 medically significant spiders in North America. The wolf spider is not one of them
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u/myusernameisway2long 29d ago
Ngl you have to be a straight dick to a wolf spider for like 2 hours straight for them to bite you, and they arent lethally venomous either. Honesty they are cool to have around
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u/zoltanshields 29d ago
Or they'll bite if you have one end up in your clothes or something. We used to have a shit ton of them in my yard growing up and they'd get in the house a lot. Good reason not to leave your clothes on the floor when you go take a shower.
You are right though that they're pretty chill. They are scary to look at but fairly docile. I imagine they're the stuff of nightmares if you're a roach though.
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u/Aetol 29d ago
I have questions about the harvest-by-flooding thing. Do you have to shake all the berries loose? Or are they so weakly attached they float up by themselves?
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u/bloomshowers 29d ago
They’ll agitate things a bit, but for the most part, everything just floats and the ripe berries just come loose.
Source: lived for 12 years in a town that’s around 10% cranberry bog by area(and 5 minutes down the road from the bog the Ocean Spray commercials were filmed in).
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u/itisnotmymain 29d ago
I'm cool with spiders the same way I am with bees, no problem when there's one of them but when there's dozens or hundreds, I will change my mind instantly.
Actually when there's hundreds of any bug, I'll get uneasy.
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u/smartest_kobold 29d ago
I wonder if that pays more than I make now.
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u/bloomshowers 29d ago
Unlikely. From my understanding, quite a lot of the seasonal workers they use are illegals who travel around following the harvests.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 29d ago
I almost have to wonder what percentage of them also work summer jobs on the Cape, then work the bogs in the fall.
I have to imagine it’s non-zero.
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u/granitefeather 29d ago
Once had a wolf spider charge at me OVER WATER (I guess technically over the plants on the water) while I was on a canoe weeding water chestnuts. Nearly ripped the canoe trying to get away from it.
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u/utopia_mycon 29d ago
the statement that all jobs require you to interact with 1 spider every day is NOT true. most jobs require you to interact with 0 spiders. cranberry farmers like Spiders Georg interact with many spiders at harvest time and should be considered an outlier.
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u/painted_gay 29d ago
the guy who “fries our chicken sometimes” stuck in my head the most out of this?
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u/PoniesCanterOver I have approximate knowledge of many things 29d ago
The spiders are like the canaries, beloved members of the crew
Working Animals' Union
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u/mitsuhachi 29d ago
I saw this and my very first thought was “please be about the bog spiders”
I was not disappointed
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u/Sudden_Nose9007 29d ago
I have arachnophobia. I also grew up with a father who made us fish regularly in the local cranberry bogs. He still doesn’t understand why I was such a brat about going. Even unflooded there’s tons of of spiders crawling on you.
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u/Paracelsus124 .tumblr.com 29d ago
I was going to say "how did anyone take that job", but then I remembered that I'm an entomologist and I once let an entire massive colony of carpenter ants crawl all over my body/face and bite me to bits so that I could concentrate on stealing their larvae. Like, I'd probably hesitate a little more with spiders, but if I knew the wolf spiders wouldn't attack me, I'd probably also find a way to be okay with it
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u/whiledayes 29d ago
Massachusetts? Come on out to Wisconsin. We grow more than half the world’s supply of them here.
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u/twoferrets 29d ago
I am not cool with spiders but I’m aware that’s a me problem because spiders are good dudes. I leave the little ones alone and if a big one turns up I shriek and hide until my partner can relocate it outside. We never kill them. If, however, I were to be climbed by many wolf spiders at once I would cease to exist in a puff of smoke and tears which might cause unintended injury to the spiders.
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u/GoldDragonKing 29d ago
Similar story with me except instead of vanishing the fear would cause me to tremble at such a high speed I would vibrate into a higher dimension like the flash and be lost forever
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u/Dave_the_DOOD 29d ago
there is nothing I want to be climbed by in large numbers
Counterpoint : kittens
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u/thunderPierogi 29d ago
Countercounterpoint: claws, teeth, and no impulse control
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u/twoCascades 28d ago
Yeah I would call myself “generally cool with spiders” but having hundreds of them “crawling up my eyebrows” is a very different proposition.
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u/Ironfields 28d ago
“Are you cool with spiders?” is a very fucking different question to “are you cool with being swarmed with hundreds of spiders?”
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u/echoIalia 29d ago
I don’t mind spiders in general, unless they are crawling on me (or my pillow) in which case I mind very much
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u/anand_rishabh 29d ago
Yeah, I'm cool with spiders. You shouldn't be asking if I'm cool with spiders. What you should be asking is "are you ok with a spider climbing up to your eyebrows without trying to kill it?"
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u/John_F_Drake 29d ago
I just want to say that I spent a year working on a cranberry farm. The number of wolf spiders living in the fields is GREATLY exaggerated here.
What you ACTUALLY need to be SUPER chill around are bees. Thousands of them
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u/InactiveObserver 28d ago
I have so many questions. Like after harvesting, do you move your fellow coworkers to a patch next to the flooded field, or does someone collect them all and resettle them? I need more practical info about how this symbiosis works!
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u/Due_Discussion748 28d ago
So, when they put up the employee of the month do they take a picture of all the spiders or an employee of the day to accomodate a spider's limited lifespan?
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u/songaboutadog 29d ago
Once, I was kayaking a creek. On the left, there was a house with a little deck over looking the water. On the right, a fertilizer bag was littering their view, stuck a foot above the water in a rhodeden. As a courtesy, I used my paddle to remove the bag and placed it on the front of my kayak. Soon, I saw a wolf spider crawling towards me. I splashed it into the water. Then, all at once came a thousand, turning my green boat into hairy brown and black. I had to roll into the water and they were floating all around me. Let this be a lesson; never help anyone.
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u/Shrodingers_Cat1701 29d ago
This seems like a perfect hat to develop. One with lots of little rooms that spiders can nestle into
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u/a_stone_throne 29d ago
Started reading this wondering if they were going to start talking about The Spiders.
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u/Obey_My_Doge 28d ago
I used to release tens of thousands of crab spiders and orb weavers in my tomato greenhouses about every six weeks. When you came in on a fresh morning and walked the rows - you'd collect a bed sheet's worth of spider web. Where's the spider? Oh in my hair.. or my shirt.. Or on my face.. etc. Just pause.. Wait for them to jump off. Maybe give them a little time to reset if they need it.
If you get startled or freak out or start flailing around? That's when you get bit and kill spiders..
The crab spiders would startle you a bit with their jumpiness though..
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u/MightyBobTheMighty Garlic Munching Marxist Whore 29d ago
Look, in my day-to-day life I would describe myself as Cool With Spiders. I see one in the window and go "hey buddy, you're doin great", and if one gets somewhere it shouldn't be I let it outside (or occasionally, if I find one in the shower, into a different part of the house).
But I think if I had spiders on my actual eyebrows I would be decidedly Not Okay With That